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buttcord · 11-09-2012, 03:55 PM

I'm saying the yeast atoms get broken up so it's not yeast anymore after the "swirling"

**unionrdr** · 11-09-2012, 03:58 PM

You can't to that on the sub-atomic level just by swirling. That's matter transmutation. We can't do that yet.

**Obliviousbrew** · 11-09-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by buttcord

I'm saying the yeast atoms get broken up so it's not yeast anymore after the "swirling"

atoms???? what are you talking about?
Yeast cells don´t disapear and they are not soluble, they just get back in suspension and you see them as a haze in your beer. There is yeast in there maybe you can´t see a slurry but you can see the haze and you can taste it

buttcord · 11-09-2012, 04:08 PM

Did I say they disappear? I said they get broken up. I sure can't taste them anymore.

**unionrdr** · 11-09-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by buttcord

I'm saying the yeast atoms get broken up so it's not yeast anymore after the "swirling"

Not to start an argument or anything,but you did say the atoms get broken up & not yeast anymore. It's still yeast & swirling up puts it back into suspension where it can be tasted. Leaving it on the bottom of the bottle renders a cleaner tasting beer where you won't taste it anymore.
Why do I feel like I'm feeding the trolls again?...

**Obliviousbrew** · 11-09-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by buttcord

Did I say they disappear? I said they get broken up. I sure can't taste them anymore.

Your are saying that there is no more yeast therefore the yeast disappear.

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Originally Posted by buttcord

I'm saying the yeast atoms get broken up so it's not yeast anymore after the "swirling"

I´m just telling you that you are wrong. Maybe you want to listen or not. But this is a public forum and I´ll hate if someone gets the wrong idea reading your post.
I yet have to figure it out: I don´t know if you are trolling or just mistaken

Edit: unionrdr beat me

Doctor_Wily · 11-09-2012, 04:19 PM

the trolls.....they feed....

**PackerfaninSanDiego** · 11-10-2012, 12:49 PM

I see that using a secondary fermenter will help reduce the amount of sediment getting into your bottles..........true? Is there any other reason why to use a secondary?

**unionrdr** · 11-10-2012, 03:52 PM

You can get the same effect in primary with time. Many of us do it that way now. Especially if you pour the chilled wort & top off water through a fine mesh strainer into the FV. Aerates all nicely & getts out grainy stuff,hops,etc. Less trub in primary at bottling time. Letting it clean up & settle out clear in there will give clear beer in the bottling bucket.