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10-19-2008, 04:28 AM
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Second addition of hops at "zero"?
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So my next batch of beer is a trappist ale. This is a big step I think. The question I have is that there are two hop additions: one at the beggining, or 60 min., and one at 0 min. What can "zero" mean? What do I do?
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10-19-2008, 04:30 AM
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a "0 minute" hop addition, is also known as a "flame out" hop addition. add that amount of hops right when you turn off the burner, and leave them in while cooling
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10-19-2008, 08:06 PM
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Also you will come across "dry hopping" and then "hopback".
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ve never done anything with dry hopping but this is where you add the hops AFTER you have carboyed it and I BELIEVE after fermentation (someone will correct me if I'm wrong).
Hopbacking is where you more or less siphon your wort over leaf hops and that wort goes into another vessle.
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10-25-2008, 04:14 AM
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So I think I'm going to Sry Hop this beer. Any thoughts?
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10-25-2008, 04:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChefBrew
So I think I'm going to Sry Hop this beer. Any thoughts?
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I dry hopped my last beer with the 0 minute addition (also known as a flame out or whirlpool addition, sometimes added with the use of a hopback) I forgot about. It will give you a slightly "greener" flavor, but will contribute basically the same thing to the beer.
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10-25-2008, 04:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinder12000
Also you will come across "dry hopping" and then "hopback".
I
ve never done anything with dry hopping but this is where you add the hops AFTER you have carboyed it and I BELIEVE after fermentation (someone will correct me if I'm wrong).
Hopbacking is where you more or less siphon your wort over leaf hops and that wort goes into another vessle.
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If I'm reading you correctly, you're confusing a hop back with first wort hopping...
A hop back is simply the container you put your hops in when either dry hopping or first wort hopping.
First wort hopping is when you either add hops to , or run your lautered wort through hops, on the way to the kettlebefore the boil.
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10-25-2008, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Hagen
If I'm reading you correctly, you're confusing a hop back with first wort hopping...
A hop back is simply the container you put your hops in when either dry hopping or first wort hopping.
First wort hopping is when you either add hops to , or run your lautered wort through hops, on the way to the kettlebefore the boil.
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It's actually the container used when running your wort from the kettle to the fermenter. It is usually attached to the spigot, and allows the hot wort to flow through a container of hops before intering a counter flow, or plate style wort chiller.
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10-25-2008, 04:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChefBrew
So my next batch of beer is a trappist ale. This is a big step I think. The question I have is that there are two hop additions: one at the beggining, or 60 min., and one at 0 min. What can "zero" mean? What do I do?
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I have a question about this recipe. My experience with trappist ales is that they tend to be aged quite a bit before consumption which seems to make late addition hops or dry hopping kind of ineffective. Am I wrong here?
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10-25-2008, 04:42 AM
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Good question. This is what I 'm trying to figure out. Any help?
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10-25-2008, 04:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dontman
I have a question about this recipe. My experience with trappist ales is that they tend to be aged quite a bit before consumption which seems to make late addition hops or dry hopping kind of ineffective. Am I wrong here?
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I've never aged a beer long enough to make all the hop flavor and aroma drop out. Ot may be because I drink my beers pretty quickly, but I think it would take quite a while before the additions were made ineffective.
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