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Old 02-09-2010, 03:23 PM   #1
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hey, have you guys had much experience with safale 04?

I've only ever used safale 05 but I bought an extract kit from AHS for an ESB and it came with 04.

I did everything right, but noticed lack of fermentation activity after only 2 days, no biggie says I..... I waited a week and a half and started my hydro readings which have been consistent. Just wondering if a fast full fermentation is normal for 04?

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Old 02-09-2010, 03:32 PM   #2
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2 days is very fast. At what temp did you ferment at, and what were your OG and FG?

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I thought that was pretty fast as well.

I kept the temp at or close to 65 ambient air temp.... As for original gravity, I was unfortunately unable to locate my hydrometer on brewday...(I had stuck it in a different box that didn't contain my brew stuff....silly me) though it was supposed to be a 1.041 O.G. according to the kit instructions. I have remained at a consistent 1.02 since I started my readings...... seems a bit high still to me. That would only be about 2.75% abv when it's supposed to be coming in around a 3.9%

I already did the whole swirl the carboy bit a week ago or so and that did not seem to do anything...

Well, I'll be darned...deductive reasoning has made me think I have my first stuck fermentation! Yay!!

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My experience is that 04 has a less active fermentation than 05. Although, sticking at 020 for a week is not something that I have experienced w/ 04.

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Old 02-09-2010, 07:35 PM   #5
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i am brewing a mild with 04 and she took off right away within 2 hours or so. I started fermentation about 62-64. After 7 days it was still plugging away. Did you aerate it sufficiently?

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i am brewing a mild with 04 and she took off right away within 2 hours or so. I started fermentation about 62-64. After 7 days it was still plugging away. Did you aerate it sufficiently?

Well I certainly thought I did. I did three batches that day (all different) and the other two had different yeast.. one was an 05 and the other was the dreaded packaged yeast that came with a cheap kit... as it was experimental anyway, I used the garbage yeast. Did all three batches the same way and the 04 batch is the only one that acted weird.
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I used the S-04 yeast in a batch recently and the fermentation seemed at least as vigorous as anything else I've done lately...

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S-04 usually ferments almost completely out in around 48hrs for me.

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thanks guys..... so from what I'm able to ascertain... 04 generally ferments out a bit faster than 05, but two days seems a bit abnormal (though not unheard of at all) and my high F.G. would likely indicate to a stuck fermentation.

Well, I reckon I'll Keep it in there for another week or so while I let the other two batches finish up then rack that batch onto the yeast cake from one of the other batches and give it a week or so to see if the gravity drops or if it truly is finished.

Sound like a reasonable plan?

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Sounds reasonable, however some things to try first... ...what's your temp at, you could possibly raise it a bit and swirl the fermenter to wake the yeasties up and get them back in to suspension.

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