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08-30-2009, 10:09 PM
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rolled oats vs. flaked oats
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Is there a difference between rolled oats and flaked oats? If a recipe calls for 1 pound of rolled oats is the equivalent needed for flaked oats as a substitute?
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08-31-2009, 12:28 AM
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08-31-2009, 06:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ampete1
Is there a difference between rolled oats and flaked oats?
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There may or may not be. Both are rolled, but with "flaked" you know that they were wetted before they were rolled (and with the friction from being rolled, they had some gelatinization). "Old Fashioned Rolled Oats" are not wetted before being rolled, so it's often encouraged that they should be cooked before being mashed. With my brews, I just go ahead and get flaked oats from the HBS since I know I won't need any pre-mash steps. With getting "rolled" from certain sources, it's hard to figure as to whether they need to be cooked or not.
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03-19-2010, 08:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davesrose
There may or may not be. Both are rolled, but with "flaked" you know that they were wetted before they were rolled (and with the friction from being rolled, they had some gelatinization). "Old Fashioned Rolled Oats" are not wetted before being rolled, so it's often encouraged that they should be cooked before being mashed. With my brews, I just go ahead and get flaked oats from the HBS since I know I won't need any pre-mash steps. With getting "rolled" from certain sources, it's hard to figure as to whether they need to be cooked or not.
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There seems to be a lot of disinformation on the many threads concerning oats. So, I thought I would add something from Mr. Breakfast himself (!): http://www.mrbreakfast.com/glossary_term.asp?glossaryID=13
" All mass-market American oatmeal cereals are made from rolled oats. Rolled oats are cleaned, graded and pearled - a process that removes the husk from the oat grain, steam-softens it, and then rolls it flat between heavy metal rollers spinning at super speed."
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"What’s the difference between Old Fashioned and Quick Oats? According to Quaker Consumer Relations, "The only difference between Old-Fashioned Oats and Quick is that the Quick Oats are cut into smaller pieces to shorten the cooking time.""
This last point has been mentioned before, but there are several threads insisting that you need to use the Quick Oats. This clearly suggests that if you're planning to run the oats through your grain mill it doesn't matter. RDWHAHB!
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04-23-2010, 07:03 PM
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If it looks like a flake, it's flaked. Flaked oats are made by rolling. This is the company most LHBS get their flaked oats from: http://www.grainmillers.com/Oat_Flakes.aspz
Same thing.
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04-13-2012, 08:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hookstrat
There seems to be a lot of disinformation on the many threads concerning oats. So, I thought I would add something from Mr. Breakfast himself (!): http://www.mrbreakfast.com/glossary_term.asp?glossaryID=13
" All mass-market American oatmeal cereals are made from rolled oats. Rolled oats are cleaned, graded and pearled - a process that removes the husk from the oat grain, steam-softens it, and then rolls it flat between heavy metal rollers spinning at super speed."
<snip>
"What’s the difference between Old Fashioned and Quick Oats? According to Quaker Consumer Relations, "The only difference between Old-Fashioned Oats and Quick is that the Quick Oats are cut into smaller pieces to shorten the cooking time.""
This last point has been mentioned before, but there are several threads insisting that you need to use the Quick Oats. This clearly suggests that if you're planning to run the oats through your grain mill it doesn't matter. RDWHAHB!
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This was the same explanation that I received from the guy of my local "grain / green" store.. he explained me in detail the process, and the difference is that the quick oats are crushed and the rolled aren't.
The reason for that (from food perspective) is that is better use rolled oats when you want to use it for a crunchier granola for example.
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04-26-2012, 12:09 AM
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Is there anyway to use flaked oats with malt extract brew rather than in a mash???
Can you mash the oats alone???
edit... I guess not?
http://www.howtobrew.com/section2/chapter12-2.html
"Oats need to be mashed with barley malt (and its enzymes) for conversion."
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04-26-2012, 01:18 AM
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You can't mash alone, but just add equal amounts of 2-row to oats and you should get good conversion for a partial mash.
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04-26-2012, 02:11 AM
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Thanks... I looked around some more and found this recipe... http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f68/milk-oatmeal-stout-182975/
I'll just steep the oats with my chocolate malt and call it a day.
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04-29-2012, 03:23 PM
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Flaked oats do not need to be mashed. Steeping the flaked oats will be enough.
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