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Old 01-29-2013, 02:58 PM   #1
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Hey guys,
So this is the second recipe I've attempted to put together. So far all my brews have been a partial mash and came out pretty well. I designed this recipe for a deep red colored american pale ale and I was wondering if anyone could guide me in the right direction.

OG: 1.065
FG: 1.016
IBU: 43

Grain Bill:
6.6 lbs Light LME
1 lb American Pale 2 Row
1 lb Carared
8 oz Melanoidin Malt - Maybe only 4 oz?
8 oz Caramel 80L
4 oz Carafa II - Too Much?
4 oz White Wheat Malt - Need for head retention?

Hops:
1 oz Warrior @ 60 min
1 oz Zythos @ 10 min
1 oz Citra @ 10 min
1 oz Citra @ 5 min
1 oz Zythos - Dryhop
1 oz Citra - Dryhop

Yeast:
Wyeast 1272 All American Ale - Better than 1056 for high flocc?

So i know it might be a little hoppier than an average pale ale, but I'm fine with that. Also I'm not totally set on my hop schedule, though I would like to try the Citra as I've never used it and have some sitting in my freezer, other than that I'm very flexible. Also, I plugged the recipe into BeerSmith and it said that the SRM would be 20.5, so that's a little dark maybe? Another question I had was if 1 lb of base malt is enough to make an efficient partial mash. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 01-29-2013, 03:01 PM   #2
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After reading up on Citra hops lately for my next APA, I think 3 oz is going to be overkill but if you like a big citrus/piney nose then by all means! Personally I would use 1 oz Citra at flame out or do the hop whirlpool with them once the beer is chilled to about 160F and then 1 oz citra in dry hop.

I would not use the carafa or you are going to make this more on the brown side.

No worries about head retention with carared and C-80 in there.

My APA's only use 8oz C-60 per 5 gallons and It give a nice thin lacey head till the last drop.

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Thanks for the input. That's probably a good idea taking out the carafa. I was on the fence about it anyway. Maybe I don't need all the Citra, but I do enjoy a nice citrusy aroma. Has anyone used the Citra/Zythos combo before?

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FYI, there is a RECIPES section of the forum that is pretty much dedicated to help with recipes and ingredients. In the future, you'll get much more feedback on questions like this over there.

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Is there anyway to get this post moved to the recipes forum? I don't want to repost the same thread.

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Eh, a moderator might come across this and move it.

I say go ahead and repost over there. You get at least one newbie pass

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The high gravity makes this more of an IPA. The low IBU count makes this more of an APA. I would recommend either cutting out some fermentables OR upping your total IBUs to give this beer a leg to stand on.

I would do this:

Mashed for 60 min at 148 F...

2-3 lbs American 2-row
1/2 to 1 lb. White Wheat
1/2 to 3/4 lb Carared
1/2 lb Melanoidin
2-4 oz, or enough Chocolate Malt for color

2.6 lbs extract added at boil start
4 lbs extract added very late in the boil
3/4 to 1 lb table or corn sugar (added late - optional)

20-35 IBUs Warrior @ 60 min
1 oz Zythos @ 10 min
1 oz Citra @ 10 min
1 oz Zythos @ 0 min
1 oz Citra @ 0 min
1.5-2 oz Zythos - Dryhop 7 days
1.5-2 oz Citra - Dryhop 7 days

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