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01-01-2013, 12:23 AM
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Um, aren't you "re-hydrating" when you pitch the dry yeast onto the wet wort?
Rick
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Paraphrasing "Yeast"
The first few moments of a Re-hydrating yeasts life is very important, until the cell wall is completely reconstituted it cannot regulate what goes through it. If it is Re-hydrating in wort the cell takes in too much and can kill or damage it.
Re-hydrating the yeast properly will yield ~70-75% viability
Re-hydrating in wort will yield ~45-50% viability.
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01-01-2013, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Satisfaction
Paraphrasing "Yeast"
The first few moments of a Re-hydrating yeasts life is very important, until the cell wall is completely reconstituted it cannot regulate what goes through it. If it is Re-hydrating in wort the cell takes in too much and can kill or damage it.
Re-hydrating the yeast properly will yield ~70-75% viability
Re-hydrating in word will yield ~45-50% viability.
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Perhaps, but the manufacturers of dry yeast don't suggest re-hydrating, do they?
Rick
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01-01-2013, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by F250
Perhaps, but the manufacturers of dry yeast don't suggest re-hydrating, do they?
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Well, they do but they figure most home brewers cannot handle it..
Check the spec sheet.
http://www.fermentis.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SFA_US05.pdf
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01-01-2013, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by F250
Perhaps, but the manufacturers of dry yeast don't suggest re-hydrating, do they?
Rick
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No they don't, and I trust the company that is making much more money than us and does this for a living. Read the manufactures instructions for the yeast your using, plain and simple.... That wasn't to you Rick, just quoted you for the 'yes or no' question....
.....Wow, appears fementis has changed the US-05 PDF, never had any hydrating options before, What the hell do I know...... (you do not have to answer that)....
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01-01-2013, 12:40 AM
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No they don't, and I trust the company that is making much more money than us and does this for a living. Read the manufactures instructions for the yeast your using, plain and simple.... That wasn't to you Rick, just quoted you for the 'yes or no' question....
.....Wow, appears fementis has changed the US-05 PDF, never had any hydrating options before, What the hell do I know...... (you do not have to answer that)....
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I was just about to respond, but held back
The flame wars were about to begin
The problem with not rehydrating is that the yeast kill can put you below optimal pitching rates and the only way to bring it back up is to throw in another package. If you like the KISS method just buy two packages.
For really big beers I buy two packages and rehydrate.
Just do a bit of research do not take my word for it.. you will find that lots of the top guys in homebrew preach rehydrating.
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01-01-2013, 12:42 AM
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I have tried both rehydrating and pitching dry and have had no discernible flavor difference between the two. This is just my experience and does not constitute a scientific experiment. However I also pitch at appropriate temperatures when available, ie not in the summer time.
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01-01-2013, 12:44 AM
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Interesting.
I usually use Fermentis or Danstar dry yeasts, as they happen to make good yeasts for the style of beers I like. To date I've always just sprinkled on top of the wort per the package instructions and not had issue, but the next time I brew something I'm familiar with I'll try re-hydrating and see if I notice a difference. I'm pretty familiar with Windsor and US-05, so they would be the logical candidates.
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01-01-2013, 12:44 AM
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I was just about to respond, but held back
The flame wars were about to begin 
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Lucky you 
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01-01-2013, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by F250
Um, aren't you "re-hydrating" when you pitch the dry yeast onto the wet wort?
Rick
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No, we are talking about before pitching the yeast into the wort.
Quote:
Originally Posted by F250
Perhaps, but the manufacturers of dry yeast don't suggest re-hydrating, do they?
Rick
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Sometimes on the packet it will recommend hydrating before use.
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01-01-2013, 12:46 AM
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Lucky you 
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He edited the first post 
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