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Naked_Eskimo 08-25-2010 01:53 PM

Rate of settling of dry-hops in Primary
 
So, I'm coming to the end of my second week in primary for my first brew, and it's almost time to do the dry-hopping step. I intend doing my entire fermentation in primary only, no secondary. This obviously includes the dry-hopping.

My question is how long will the hop pellets stay in suspension after adding them to the carboy? I intend to dry hop for 5-7 days and then bottle immediately. I'd prefer to not have lots of hop pellet material floating everywhere when it comes time to bottle.

So, will the hops have settled to the bottom of the carboy in a week, or would using a sterilized (boiled?) muslin bag be a better move. I'd prefer not to use the bag, since an extra item just ups the possibility of contamination.

Yooper 08-25-2010 01:56 PM

Well, most of the hop pellets will turn into sludge pretty quickly. Some will drop, some won't. What I do is simply start my siphon in the middle of the brew, and lower it as the level drops, so that I siphon from between the floating hops sludge and the trub. The autosiphon has a black tip on the end that helps prevent sucking up big particles of sludge. I've tried doing the bag thing, but I always manage to clog that up, so I just use the siphon. It's not too bad.

Naked_Eskimo 08-25-2010 02:47 PM

Yooper, when referring to the "bag thing", were you referring to i) putting hops in a bag, ii) putting a muslin bag over the tip of the autosiphon, or iii) siphoning through a strainer bag into the bottling bucket?

One thing I noticed when I was using hop bags in the boil, the pellets turned to sludge QUICKLY and some of that sludge made its way out of the bag through the pores. No point using a hop bag if the same thing is going to happen?

Yooper 08-25-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Naked_Eskimo (Post 2237207)
Yooper, when referring to the "bag thing", were you referring to i) putting hops in a bag, ii) putting a muslin bag over the tip of the autosiphon, or iii) siphoning through a strainer bag into the bottling bucket?

One thing I noticed when I was using hop bags in the boil, the pellets turned to sludge QUICKLY and some of that sludge made its way out of the bag through the pores. No point using a hop bag if the same thing is going to happen?

I was referring to using a hops bag (sanitized) over the racking cane. That never worked for me.

I'm not a fan of hops bags, so I rarely use them.

cedar_lake 08-25-2010 03:18 PM

Hop bag over the cane got me bubbles in my siphon tube.

wonderbread23 08-25-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by YooperBrew (Post 2237243)
I was referring to using a hops bag (sanitized) over the racking cane. That never worked for me.

I'm not a fan of hops bags, so I rarely use them.

I've had similar experience... the hops always clog up the end when using a fabric bag on the tip. One thing that I've used is a piece of wire metal mesh cut off a scour pad. I sanitize it and then stick it over the siphon end. Works pretty good.

Naked_Eskimo 08-25-2010 04:48 PM

Yeah, I've read of people using SS scrubbies on the ends of their racking canes to filter out the funk.

As mentioned, this is my first brew. I lost a lot of volume to trub in the boil, so I'm already 1/2 gallon shorter than planned. Dont want to lose any more to hops and funk.

JJL 08-25-2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Naked_Eskimo (Post 2237545)
Yeah, I've read of people using SS scrubbies on the ends of their racking canes to filter out the funk.

As mentioned, this is my first brew. I lost a lot of volume to trub in the boil, so I'm already 1/2 gallon shorter than planned. Dont want to lose any more to hops and funk.

I would say that the hops are probably the least of your concern if you are worried about losing volume. The majority of your beer loss is going to be from the yeast cake when you rack. The hops pellets aren't really going to contribute to much loss.

Personally, I don't even worry about hops particles from dry hopping. They really don't pose anymore of a problem than flavor or aroma hops. If it were me, I'd just throw them in, wait a week, siphon to a bottling bucket, and bottle. Just my opinion.

Naked_Eskimo 08-25-2010 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JJL (Post 2237609)
I would say that the hops are probably the least of your concern if you are worried about losing volume. The majority of your beer loss is going to be from the yeast cake when you rack. The hops pellets aren't really going to contribute to much loss.

Personally, I don't even worry about hops particles from dry hopping. They really don't pose anymore of a problem than flavor or aroma hops. If it were me, I'd just throw them in, wait a week, siphon to a bottling bucket, and bottle. Just my opinion.

JJL -- I dont really have a problem throwing them in and waiting a week....but I worry about my friends who may/may not want to drink homebrew with green floaties in it.

alexdagrate 08-25-2010 07:25 PM

As long as you are careful when you rack the beer to your bottling bucket, you should be able to avoid most floaties.

I usually end up with just one bottle having floaties (the last one). I usually drop an additional pellet or two into this bottle and mark it for future reference.

When I open this bottle, I make sure to strain it when pouring it into a glass. "Bottling-hopping" definitely gives the beer some awesome aroma and flavor. It's a bit grassy, but I like it.


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