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Old 11-22-2012, 09:03 AM   #11
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Yup, starsan is a no rinse, contact sanitizer and works great. Keep a spray bottle handy and just use that for lots of applications. Really economical. Spray a good amount into the fermenter then chuck the lid on, give it a good shake, rattle 'n roll, and leave for a few seconds then it's good to go. Definitely recommended.

Oxiclean or PBW are really effective for cleaning stubborn, and/or organic matter from bottles, fermenters, carboys etc. Make sure to rinse with hot water really well after an Oxiclean soak though as it can leave a slippery, soapy-feeling, type residue on equipment.

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Old 11-27-2012, 10:07 AM   #12
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Alright guys, it's now been 9 days into secondary fermentation, and my wort has been fermenting 11 days in entirety. There is ZERO foam, ZERO airlock activity, and it smells pretty damn good, not a hint of a scent yeast whatsoever. Is it at all possible it has finished fermenting in this short amount of time, at such low temperatures? Or has the low temperature simply deactivated/ killed the yeast. Please help !

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Old 11-27-2012, 03:13 PM   #13
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It's entirely possible that your brew has made it through high krausen and the initial attenuation phase. Being as it's only the 11th day you're probably better off just moving the fermenter somewhere warmer, or using a heating pad/ something similar to raise the temp to about 20deg C and giving the brew a gentle swirl to get the yeast agitated a bit for the conditioning phase, leaving it be for another few days to a week, do a couple of SG checks to ascertain a stable FG, then you'll probably be good to bottle.

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Old 12-01-2012, 12:06 AM   #14
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Alright bro, I bottled today. Local brew shop didn't carry star san, so I had to use chlorinated trisodium phosphate on the bottles, but I rinsed them VIGOROUSLY (took me a good 30 minutes just to rinse all the bottles properly). I was unable to take a gravity reading because the damn wine thief I picked up didn't reach the bottom of my carboy ! I did take one near the bottom of the bucket, however the dextrose had JUST been mixed in, so that doesn't really tell me ****. Anyhow, I had about half a glass of the dregs, and it tasted pretty damn good ! Here's hoping for the best, and praying for no bottle bombs !

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Old 12-01-2012, 08:44 AM   #15
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Alright bro, I bottled today. Local brew shop didn't carry star san, so I had to use chlorinated trisodium phosphate on the bottles, but I rinsed them VIGOROUSLY (took me a good 30 minutes just to rinse all the bottles properly). I was unable to take a gravity reading because the damn wine thief I picked up didn't reach the bottom of my carboy ! I did take one near the bottom of the bucket, however the dextrose had JUST been mixed in, so that doesn't really tell me ****. Anyhow, I had about half a glass of the dregs, and it tasted pretty damn good ! Here's hoping for the best, and praying for no bottle bombs !
Not sure what chlorinated trisodium phosphate is, unless it's some fancy salt with chlorine, but just the fact there's chlorine in it makes me a little uneasy. Granted, a thorough rinsing will likely get rid of the chlorine but might leave your beer having the potential for infection. That's the reason for the no rinse sanitizers such as Starsan.

I think that you don't necessarily have to draw your FG sample from the bottom of your Carboy, at this stage in the game, and drawing from near the top would have given you a decent enough sample for the purpose.

Not knowing your FG will mean that calculating your ABV will be a no go, which isn't really all that big a deal, and that you haven't determined a stable FG so, as you realize, there might be a slim chance of bottle bombs.

Hope everything turns out well for you with this batch and you end up with a
Brew that meets your expectations. Even if it doesn't quite hit the standards you were aiming for you've probably learned enough from this batch to help you brew an amazing one next time around.
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:38 PM   #16
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I promise you I rinsed every bottle 4-5 times obsessively, inside, and out, and it took for ****ing ever. That said, tap water in my city is pretty damn clean, and I'm not too too worried about infection from it. From what I read, if you sanitize properly, infections are harder to come by than you might think. But I get what you mean about no-rinse. I found a wine shop that carries star-san downtown, and I'll have to pick some up before my next batch, as this chlorine **** is a pain in the ass, regardless of if it turns out right. As for the ABV, all I really want from this batch, as it's my first, is for it to taste good. As long as there is some alcohol, it's a success to me. Though I'll have to get a better wine thief and start taking grav readings in batches to come. It's been about 28 hours now since they've been in bottles, and not a single bomb, so I take that as a good sign. Can they go off at any time, or are the first few days more of the danger zone for bombs? Thanks for all you help and support Ogri !

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Alright there!! How did this brew turn out for you. I take it you didn't have any bottle bombs and that you've already sampled some finished product.

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Alright there!! How did this brew turn out for you. I take it you didn't have any bottle bombs and that you've already sampled some finished product.
Hey man ! Beer turned out great, and is alllll gone at this point (gave plenty out as gifts to friends and fam around Christmas time). It had more qualities of a stout than a dark lager, but then again it wasn't the best quality kit, and I have since found a MUCH better LHBS. I'm actually bottling my second batch (and third actually) tomorrow morning. I've got a 'Beeman's Honey Brown Ale', which was a partial extract/specialty grain kit put together by my own LHBS (not sure if it qualifies as a partial/ mini mash, as I only steeped specialty grains, and didn't actually add/mash any base malts?), in which I used almost a full two pounds of fresh, local, unpasteurized Nova Scotian honey (really looking forward to this one), as well as a Mangrove Jack's Apple Cider kit. Thanks again for all your help seeing me through my first batch, bro.

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Oh, by the way, the new LHBS carries Star-San and PBW NEVER going back to chlorine salts or iodophor again !!!

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Good stuff

Great to hear that it all worked out well for you

I have to say, once I stopped using one-step and started using starsan I felt a lot more confident in my sanitizing process. Pretty sure I've read that Oxiclean is a bit less expensive than PBW and does, near enough, the same job, just in case you're ever needing to scrimp a little. Best of luck with the present, and future brews

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