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Old 08-06-2013, 05:13 PM   #11
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if you are ordering your grains online i believe you can request that they be crushed first.

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Old 08-06-2013, 05:19 PM   #12
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This is kind of fun, maybe a grain mill from amazon.co.uk? (I believe they ship to Finland). Failing that I found this site. http://www.kotiviini.fi/ (disclaimer I have no affiliation with these folks, know nothing about them, etc)

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Old 08-06-2013, 05:30 PM   #13
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I dont order my malts but make them at home. If I order them online, I will make sure they will be crushed . I know that website, but experienced a few difficulties when ordering.

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Old 08-06-2013, 05:33 PM   #14
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Yes. Its hard but could not think of another way to do it.
Check out some of the DIY videos and things on YouTube and the such.

There are plenty of ideas there on installing a manifold, false bottom or screen type filter and then draining via the spigot on the side of the cooler.

Good Lord Man, that is a lot of heavy lifting!!! And not a very efficient way of getting the job done.

This forum is a great tool... use it and ask a lot of questions and we will have you on your way in no time at all.
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You actually pick up the cooler and dump it into the kettle through a stainer?
Yes. Its hard but could not think of another way to do it.
How about the way everybody else on the planet does it? The way described all over this website and in every book ever written on all-grain brewing? Use a fine-mesh bag to contain the grains in a pot (for Brew-In-A-Bag) or a stainless braid, false bottom, or bazooka screen in a cooler (for cooler mashing).

If you made your first batch without crushing the grains at all, then there's very little chance you actually made beer, as there would have been virtually no sugars released for the yeast to feed on. You simply must find a way to crush your grains, or there's no point in even bothering. It's a fundamental step in brewing.

For small batches, you can get by crushing the grains with a rolling pin, or you might have some luck with the careful application of a food processor, but the "correct" approach is to use a grain mill. Either your own, or at the LHBS, or borrow from another brewer, or order your grain already milled. But one way or another, the grain must be milled.
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How about the way everybody else on the planet does it? The way described all over this website and in every book ever written on all-grain brewing? Use a fine-mesh bag to contain the grains in a pot (for Brew-In-A-Bag) or a stainless braid, false bottom, or bazooka screen in a cooler (for cooler mashing).

If you made your first batch without crushing the grains at all, then there's very little chance you actually made beer, as there would have been virtually no sugars released for the yeast to feed on. You simply must find a way to crush your grains, or there's no point in even bothering. It's a fundamental step in brewing.

For small batches, you can get by crushing the grains with a rolling pin, or you might have some luck with the careful application of a food processor, but the "correct" approach is to use a grain mill. Either your own, or at the LHBS, or borrow from another brewer, or order your grain already milled. But one way or another, the grain must be milled.
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Crushed grains are VERY important.
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How about the way everybody else on the planet does it? The way described all over this website and in every book ever written on all-grain brewing? Use a fine-mesh bag to contain the grains in a pot (for Brew-In-A-Bag) or a stainless braid, false bottom, or bazooka screen in a cooler (for cooler mashing).

If you made your first batch without crushing the grains at all, then there's very little chance you actually made beer, as there would have been virtually no sugars released for the yeast to feed on. You simply must find a way to crush your grains, or there's no point in even bothering. It's a fundamental step in brewing.

For small batches, you can get by crushing the grains with a rolling pin, or you might have some luck with the careful application of a food processor, but the "correct" approach is to use a grain mill. Either your own, or at the LHBS, or borrow from another brewer, or order your grain already milled. But one way or another, the grain must be milled.
I did it only for one batch because I could not wait to get on with brewing. I will probably go with the BIAB method since it is much easier.
It tasted nice, that was enough for me . Now that you expressed its significance, I will look into malt crushers. I opened this thread because I wanted to know if there was a way other than buying or building a crusher. Ordering or making one takes time, a lot of time in fact for someone as lazy as me, thus any alternative is better.
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You could even check out Ebay over there for a grain mill.

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I understand the lazyness factor, but I really don't think it's that difficult to go online and order a grain mill from somewhere that can get it to you. Even if it isn't fast, you can experiment with your coffee grinder in the mean time. But if you are malting your own grain and going to all that trouble, ordering a grain mill seems like a pretty easy task to pull off. It just makes sense to have the right tool to get the job done. This isn't What kind of pot, plastic or glass fermenter, what brand of burner, crushing grain is a basic part of the brewing process, it's something you want to do right. Look up carona mills here and on the rest of the internet, a lot of people here use them and that would probably give you just what you need. I just don't think this is one area you want to try to find a workaround on.

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