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Old 04-17-2013, 02:15 AM   #1
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I have a question about my saison. I used the saison yeast from white labs 560. It has been sitting in the primary for just over 2 weeks. I haven't really seen much action in the airlock the entire time. There has been minimal action. I checked the FG it was at about 1.030. The target FG is1.013. It was really foamy and it looks like the hops are floating on top of the foam. It had a really strong hop smell to it also. When I moved it, the airlock started bubbling crazy. My question is, should I transfer it to a secondary or just let it be? Here is a picture of it.

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Old 04-17-2013, 02:22 AM   #2
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Definitely let it be. If you want to transfer it to a secondary eventually that's okay, but it still has quite a bit of fermenting to do so it's best to just leave it where it is for now.

Hop smell coming off of it right now is normal, as it the airlock bubbling a lot when you move it. As you move the fermenting vessel, it will knock more co2 out than when it is sitting still. Try to keep moving it and opening it to a minimum. I am sure you will have a great saison!

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Old 04-17-2013, 02:49 AM   #3
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Just leave it alone. I haven't used this strain, but the other WL saison yeasts have a reputation for stalling in that FG range. Swirl the fermenter to make sure you've got enough yeast in suspension and then get it into a warmer room . At this point, you can ramp the temp way up to get it going.

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Man do I feel silly. I almost don't want to admit this but, I made another batch of beer about 3 days ago and I got the buckets mixed up. On the other hand the FG is .002 under target. So I'm bottling now. Thanks for the help even though it turns out I just got the buckets mixed.

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Man do I feel silly. I almost don't want to admit this but, I made another batch of beer about 3 days ago and I got the buckets mixed up. On the other hand the FG is .002 under target. So I'm bottling now. Thanks for the help even though it turns out I just got the buckets mixed.
1.011 is still pretty high for a saison yeast. Did you check fg over several days and it is stable or did you just bottle when you saw it at 1.011? If the latter, you may be in for a nasty surprise.
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most saison yeasts take a long time to ferment, but will go very low in Fg on the end. they can take up to 2 months to ferment. just up the temps a little and wait some more.

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Old 04-17-2013, 11:09 AM   #7
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To finish out the song ... (Beatles must have been closet brewers)

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Couldn't hurt to let the saison age a few weeks, so the yeast can clean up odd chemicals etc produced during the fermenting process.

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Man do I feel silly. I almost don't want to admit this but, I made another batch of beer about 3 days ago and I got the buckets mixed up.
I use wide blue painters tape and a Sharpie to mark my fermenters. It comes off easily when a batch is done.
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1.011 is still pretty high for a saison yeast. Did you check fg over several days and it is stable or did you just bottle when you saw it at 1.011? If the latter, you may be in for a nasty surprise.
I just went by the recipe and bottled it. What kind of surprise are you talking about? I might just have to throw in the towel on this one.
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Don't throw in the towel, but it might be a good idea to keep the bottles in a rubbermaid tub or something like that. If it wasn't done fermenting yet and you put priming sugar in the bottles they could potentially over carbonate and explode.

Never just go by what the recipe says FG should be. There are so many variables when you're making beer that only two or more hydrometer readings that come out the same can tell you if your beer is done fermenting or not. Brew and learn!

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