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02-04-2012, 06:14 AM
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Question about starting fermenting
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so we started a stout today and after adding the water sugar and malt and stirring there was a large amount of foam on the top. so not thinking any more about it, I scooped the foam off and took the OG reading then added yeast, would this cause an effect? also we used plain dextrose our other two beerkits we have used muntons beerkit enhancer. would that have an effect on it
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02-04-2012, 08:37 AM
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The foam is just protein from the malts building up on top. Those proteins help with head stabilization later on, so by scooping them off, you may have weakened your head retention a bit, but still, RDWHAHB.
As for the dextrose bit, not sure what you're asking, you need some punctuation to make your statements a bit clearer. Can you elaborate?
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02-04-2012, 11:47 AM
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Leave the foam. Don't take your OG reading in your fermenter. Take a sample out to fill the tube your hydrometer came in. Drink it or discard it, but don't add it back to the fermenter.
Also not sure what you're asking about dextrose. Are these kit-n-kilo kits you're doing?
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02-04-2012, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Damage
Also not sure what you're asking about dextrose. Are these kit-n-kilo kits you're doing?
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ummmmm, did you notice the OP's GIGANTIC sigline? i think he's brewing cooper's kits.
OP, yeah, you wanna leave that foam there after aerating. next time just pull a small sample, put it in the tube your hydro came in and take the reading there. then you can taste the sample, or dump it, just don't put it back in the fermenter.
the beer kit enhancer is a dextrose/maltose blend. if anything, it'll make for a bit more flavor than just plain dex would.
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02-04-2012, 07:04 PM
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**** okay, and as for the sig, woops shouldn't be that big. what i was talking about the dextrose is in our past two beerkits we have used munton's beerkit enhancer. and within 3 hours theres about 4 inches of foam and **** in the bucket stuck to the top of the lid. but this time we used plain dextrose and it was 12 hrs + before we seen a result of any fermentation. would the dextrose and beerkit enhancer have an effect on it?
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02-04-2012, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ringatom
**** okay, and as for the sig, woops shouldn't be that big. what i was talking about the dextrose is in our past two beerkits we have used munton's beerkit enhancer. and within 3 hours theres about 4 inches of foam and **** in the bucket stuck to the top of the lid. but this time we used plain dextrose and it was 12 hrs + before we seen a result of any fermentation. would the dextrose and beerkit enhancer have an effect on it?
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nah, i liked your sig line, i was just wondering how dude missed that you were fermenting cooper's kits.
as far as your question, yes, the yeast will be more aggressive going after the more complex sugars. totally normal, and IMO, the maltose/dextrose blend you used this time is a far better choice than the plain dextrose. 
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02-04-2012, 07:57 PM
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Idk about the Munton's enhancer,but the Cooper's enhancer is a mixture of dextrose & maltodextrin. Maltodextrin only ferments out a max of 5%. It gives more mouth feel,being a long chain more complex sugar than the simple sugars in the malts.
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02-05-2012, 02:15 AM
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so once my primary fermentation is done, is it possible to add more sugar then add more yeast to increase the amount of abv?
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02-05-2012, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ringatom
so once my primary fermentation is done, is it possible to add more sugar then add more yeast to increase the amount of abv?
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it's possible, but not the best idea. personally, i'd leave this batch as is and get it ready to drink. if you wanna make a higher ABV beer, look for a higher OG in the next recipe/kit you brew.
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02-05-2012, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NordeastBrewer77
it's possible, but not the best idea. personally, i'd leave this batch as is and get it ready to drink. if you wanna make a higher ABV beer, look for a higher OG in the next recipe/kit you brew.
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how do i get a higher OG out of a batch. keep in mind these are canned brews, and pre hopped
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