Spike Brewing 12.5 Conical Fermenter Giveaway!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > question about rinsing off bleach

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-03-2008, 08:45 PM   #1
Jakobrau
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Jakobrau's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Montreal
Posts: 53
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default question about rinsing off bleach

Totally new to this hobby... so go easy on me

I listened to the 2007-03-29 broadcast of homebrew radio with great interest. I know star san and others are highly recommended around here, but I cannot find it locally it seems. If I can just use cheap common bleach then that's fine with me.

I know that at the quantities suggested (2tbsp per 5 gallon) rinsing is not required, but I think I would feel better doing so nonetheless.

The question: can I use tap water on HOT to rinse, are am I just undoing my sanitization efforts by doing so? Seems to me that hot water tanks are set to a certain temperature specifically because past a certain degree (60C?) bacteria isn't likely to grow in it.

I realize I can't control the conditions between the tank and the faucet, but am I just splitting hairs at this point? I'm not looking for hospital grade sanitation, just trying to establish a simple method that's easy and convenient. My dishwasher uses this same water afterall...

Any thoughts?

__________________
Jakobrau is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-03-2008, 08:48 PM   #2
BierMuncher
...My Junk is Ugly...
HBT_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
BierMuncher's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 12,155
Liked 572 Times on 337 Posts
Likes Given: 208

Default

Don't worry about using bleach solution. I've used it exclusively with no issues for...let's just say...more than a few batches.

I always use hot tap water for rinsing. Again...no issues.

My right sink basin is always filled with bleach solution. I also toss in a 1/4 cup of oxyclean.

shopsink.jpg


Last edited by BierMuncher; 04-03-2008 at 08:56 PM.
BierMuncher is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-03-2008, 08:48 PM   #3
DeadYetiBrew
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 1,052
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

Sometimes, depending on what i sanitize, i will rinse.... To me it seems if you let something sit the recommended 15 minutes with bleach that that will kill all nasties contained therein. Rinsing just takes out the crud leaving a perfectly clean area.... Of course like i said i only do it with some things i sanitize... Usually i leave it be.

__________________
DeadYetiBrew is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-03-2008, 09:10 PM   #4
zacster
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 993
Liked 19 Times on 18 Posts

Default

I've been rinsing with the same NYC tap water that I make the beer with. I didn't rinse when I did this many years ago, but since I'm comfortable using tap water I do it. I haven't had any problems.

This being said, I received my first bottle of StarSan from the brown truck today and I'll be using that instead.

__________________
zacster is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-03-2008, 10:38 PM   #5
malkore
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
malkore's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 6,922
Liked 32 Times on 30 Posts
Likes Given: 9

Default

order star-san online if you cna't get it at the LHBS.

the stuff is phenomenal. you can literally drink it and suffer no ill effects. can't say that about bleach

__________________
Malkore
Primary: English Mild
On tap: Pale Ale, Lancelot's Wheat, English Brown Ale, Steam Beer, HoovNuts IPA
Bottled: MOAM, Braggot, Raspberry Melomel, Merlot, Apfelwein, Pyment, Sweet mead, Cabernet
Gal in 2009: 27, Gal in 2010: 34, Gal in 2011: 13, Gal in 2012: 10
malkore is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-04-2008, 03:09 AM   #6
Go Gators
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 179
Default

I know it has been said, but just to give you one more opinion to help ease your mind...I too use hot tap water to rinse after using bleach. I have yet to NOTICE any off flavors, but I too am kind of new to the hobby. Happy brewing.

__________________
Primaries -Cider
Secondaries - Winter IPA, Belgium Noel
Extra Kegs - Empty
On Tap - Sam Adam's Boston Lager
Next - Nothing at the moment
Reading - Radical Brewing



GO GATORS!
Go Gators is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-04-2008, 03:30 AM   #7
Professor Frink
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Professor Frink's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 3,106
Liked 13 Times on 13 Posts

Default

Typically, I use bleach to clean my carboys and then sanitize with Iodophor. If you have to sanitize with bleach, I would rinse, as I have tasted homebrews by other brewers where the bleach flavor has come through.

__________________
Primary: Cherrywood Smoked Porter
60 Minute IPA
Secondary:
On tap:Amber Ale
Milk Stout

Lagering:


http://www.lazydogbrewery.com
Professor Frink is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-04-2008, 06:03 AM   #8
Dominator6
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Layton, Utah
Posts: 92
Default

i used bleach for a while and just "felt" better about using it. One thing to note....don't use scented bleach. I had to reclean/santize all of my equipment after reading about it on here! But bleach is fine, I use oxyclean and bleach and have had no off flavors! Oxyclean is not starsan but it works well and I bought a big box for $14 at Sam's Club. Yes you have to rinse but I like it and use if for other things around the house as well.

__________________
Dominator6 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-04-2008, 06:10 AM   #9
JimC
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 295
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

In the right concentration, bleach is a no-rinse sanitizer. if you taste bleach in your beer, you use WAY to much.

Quote:
Originally Posted by malkore
order star-san online if you cna't get it at the LHBS.

the stuff is phenomenal. you can literally drink it and suffer no ill effects. can't say that about bleach
Actually, you can drink bleach too, in the right concentration. In fact it is commonly used to purify water when camping. it's cheap, easy and leaves no taste or odor when used correctly.
__________________
JimC is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-04-2008, 09:57 AM   #10
solidghost
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 332
Default

During my army days, they supplied us with this tablet which we put int our jerry cans that is supposed to kill off all the germs and bacteria in the water, can't quite recall the name of this tablet.
It would be cool to have these as a sanitzier.

__________________
Singapore Beer Home Brewing

Singapore Home Brew Suppliers
solidghost is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rinsing out the LME jug mparmer Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 8 10-07-2009 12:00 AM
Rinsing bottles with a bleach solution. arover Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 9 03-20-2009 10:29 PM
Rinsing immobileman Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 13 01-07-2009 02:11 AM
B Brite screwup? HOT Water rinsing question? leoglenwood Equipment/Sanitation 2 08-27-2008 10:58 PM
bleach question, calman General Techniques 2 03-08-2006 06:28 PM