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Old 10-17-2013, 06:18 AM   #1
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Default Pumpkin Puree = serious trub?

I am planning on brewing a pumpkin ale here pretty soon and I have been reading some pretty horrible stories about pumpkin leading to stuck sparges and a crazy amount of pumpkin in the fermenter. I was planning on adding 16 oz. of the puree during the boil at 15 min. I was not planning on using a bag of any kind but now I am am thinking that maybe if I put all the puree in my big strainer and put the strainer at water level and let all the pumpkin boil while staying in the strainer that would give the flavor and keep the pumpkin out!

What do you guys think?

P.s. I have also noticed that people use alooooot more than 1 16oz can. More like 5-6 lbs

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Old 10-17-2013, 06:19 AM   #2
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In the boil????? Mash it! I dont think adding starches in your boil is a good idea.

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Old 10-17-2013, 06:26 AM   #3
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I would need to buy some rice hulls for the mash huh

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Yeah just reading all the bad stuff people are saying online about stuck sparges I really don't want to deal with that. My last brew day was a real pain and I want this brew day to actually be somewhat enjoyable. From what it sounds like I will not get as much pumpkin flavor as if I would in the mash. I think that either way most of the flavor you get in a pumpkin ale is going to be from the spices and vanilla.

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Old 10-17-2013, 11:32 AM   #5
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I used 5lbs of Libbeys puree in my mash a few weeks ago. Just mash thin and use 2lbs of hulls instead of the normal 1lb. (I actually only used 1# but better safe than sorry. I have supreme confidence in my false bottom) Not even a hint of a stuck sparge. Don't fear the puree.

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Old 10-17-2013, 11:48 AM   #6
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I mashed 8 lbs of pumpkin this weekend in 13lbs grain, 1/2 lb oats, 1/2 lb flaked wheat, 1/2 lb rice hulls. Thick mash batch sparge. Was slow but steady and did not stick. 90 min mash to give enzymes best shot at the pumpkin.

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But why put it in the mash vs the boil?

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I used 60oz of Libby's pumpkin, baked for an hour at 350, in my boil last week. It certainly adds some to the trub, but I think it adds some good mouthfeel and flavor that way. My batch last year was enjoyed by those who don't really like pumpkin beers.

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I did a pumpkin 5 weeks ago. 45 OZ (3 cans) of pure pumpkin in boil. Before hand I spread the pumpkin on a cookie sheet, sprinkled some brown sugar and baked at 450 for roughly an hour to caramelize and bring out the sweetness. There are many recipes online suggesting this method as an option to mashing, etc.

Basically, the pumpkin liquefies So it will all end up in your fermenter. No worries. After 3 week in primary I checked and it was still largely suspended. I cold crashed it at 40 degrees for 48 hours. It all fell out and was clear at bottling.

The amount of trub? Lets say "significant". I've boiled 5 gallons batches so far (three under my belt) the first two ended with 46 - 48 bottles. The pumpkin was around 39-41.

All said...it tasted great and still improving. Pumpkin can cause challenges whether mashed or boiled from what everything I've read. Either way its worth it and go for it.

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I used 60oz of Libby's pumpkin, baked for an hour at 350, in my boil last week. It certainly adds some to the trub, but I think it adds some good mouthfeel and flavor that way. My batch last year was enjoyed by those who don't really like pumpkin beers.
Yeah I was thinking about dumping it all into my giant beer strainer and then setting the strainer water level. I'm not sure of it will lessen the flavor extracted, I just had a bad time with my last batch (mostly because of the Hassle of racking with tons of trub and leaf hops) and want to try to keep things simple. I was thinking of doing a whirlpool and racking from pot to primary this time, last time I just poured everything into my primary and had tons of trub. I came up about 10 bombers shorter than expected sure to trub and Damn hops clogging my bottling wand
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