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Apatride 12-05-2012 09:04 AM

Proper priming method in bottling bucket?
Hi guys,

This Sunday I bottled my first batch (and it tastes and smell great, I am having a hard time not drinking it right now). I followed the process I have seen in the How to brew beer online book (I don't remember the title but this is the one recommended here).
So I put some DME in water (maybe not enough water?), boiled it for 20 minutes, put it in my bottling bucket and syphoned the beer from fermenter into the bottling bucket.
After bottling (using the bucket tap and a bottling wand), the last bottle was only half full so I decided to drink it (and damn was I happy!!) then, I poured what was remaining in the bucket and tasted it, it was extremely sugary, which makes me think that the priming sugar did not mix with the beer so I will have under-carbonated beer.

Now, I have been told that I could safely drop some carb drops in the bottles to fix this (and I did that with 4 bottles last night) which sounds like a good idea to me but I also would like to avoid doing the same mistake next time.
I have been advised to dilute the sugar (or DME here) into more water which makes sense to me (lowering gravity will limit the risk it sits at the bottom). I have also been told to pour the priming solution on top of the beer and gently stir (I have more doubts here since it is going to aerate the beer).

So, long story short, what is your method and can you help me fix mine?



beerman0001 12-05-2012 09:10 AM

The 4 bottles you put carb drops in put them in a safe place they might blow up. When I bottle i use corn sugar for the priming solution boil for 15 min dump in bottling bucket siphon beer on top of it and give it a gentle stir(no splashing) to make sure it is even throughout the beer. Have never noticed any issues with doing it this way.

Apatride 12-05-2012 09:43 AM

Thanks for your response.
I guess the stirring is the missing part in my process.
Regarding the bottles I put carb drops in, I put only one drop in pint bottles (instead of 1.5 drop) and did it on plastic bottles only so I can monitor the pressure and limit the risk of injury but thanks for the advice

chiteface 12-05-2012 09:50 AM

Why boil for so long? I just bring to a boil and dissolve. Maybe let it go for one more min. Never had any issue.

Apatride 12-05-2012 09:53 AM

chiteface: I am just a bit paranoid so everything I can sanitize gets sanitized. Let's say that this one is in the "it does not hurt" category.

chiteface 12-05-2012 09:57 AM

Is that how it says to do it in Palmer's book. Been a while since I've read it...

Apatride 12-05-2012 10:00 AM

It say:
"Plus there is a greater risk of infection because the sugar has not been boiled."
And my understanding is that boiling to sanitize takes at least 10 minutes.

Revvy 12-05-2012 11:34 AM

Had you drunk from any other bottles, you would have found they tasted the same.....it tastes sweet at that point because, you just put sugar in your beer. Not because the sugar wasn't mixed properly....it mixes itself pretty well just by letting the beer swirl with the priming solution.

When you boil the sugar, you turn it into a fluid, and two fluids of similar densities mix pretty automatically on their own. It's not like you dumped raw sugar in and expected it to dissolve, you helped it along by boiling it.

You prime tabbed those bottles out of panic, and not because they needed them. Now you need to isolate those bottles from you and anyone else getting hurt by putting too much sugar in them.

Read the bottling sticky here, and next time, ask for help BEFORE you try to fix something that had you asked us about it, we would have told you it wasn't broken.

Apatride 12-05-2012 11:47 AM

Hi Revvy, thanks for your input and I fully understand the "Ask for advices before, not after".
Actually, my concern was that the taste of the half bottle was extremely different from the taste of what remained in the bucket (the last centimetre of liquid) which leads me to think that the mix wasn t done properly. Could it be that the density of the priming solution was quite high due to lack of water?
I also noticed that the syphon tends to pour beer on top of the priming solution rather than through it (very flexible tube).

The bottles are already in a cupboard and I ll monitor them regularly to detect any pressure issue (these are PET bottles so I can see easily if the pressure increases).

Revvy 12-05-2012 01:20 PM

It really mixes itself better than most new brewers think it does. It's not like mixing oil and water, you're really mixing two very similar densities that want to go together.

It really is a simple, foolproof process, just relax and let it go next time. Don't panic about how something may look, smell or taste UNTIL a beer is carbed and conditioned, because until then there are so many variables at play in the process that are perfectly normal, yet are often different than we in our nervous ignorance think it should be.

Just ignore the bottles for a minimum of 3-4 weeks, let them do their thing, and more than likely you'll be perfectly fine.

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