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 lakedawgs 02-19-2011 03:54 AM

Powdered malt vrs Syrup question

HI
My first question here is pretty mundane, but here goes.

A recipe calls for 6lbs of extract. Powdered extract comes in 1lb or 3lb bags or cans of syrup that are 3.3lb.

Does 6lbs of powder equal the same as 6lbs of syrup?
Cannot find clarification on this.
THANKS!
Lakedawgs

 Deuce 02-19-2011 04:08 AM

No it does not. You use less liquid malt extract vs. Dried malt extract (DME)

 lumpher 02-19-2011 04:16 AM

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Deuce (Post 2660770) No it does not. You use less liquid malt extract vs. Dried malt extract (DME)
your statement means lme has higher potential than dme. in my experience, dme is around 1.044, and lme is around 1.037...

 lakedawgs 02-19-2011 04:16 AM

So does that mean a recipe that calls for 6lbs of extract means 6lbs of powder or one 3.3lb can of syrup?
Sorry to sound stupid, but I am having trouble wrapping my head around what is likely a simple thing.
Thanks,
Lakedawgs

 lumpher 02-19-2011 04:21 AM

if you use 2 3 lb bags of dme alone in a 5g brew, you'll get a 5% brew. with lme, if you use 2 3.3 cans, you'll get about a 4.85% or so. you really need more lme, as the syrup is less fermentable than the powder

 Yooper 02-19-2011 04:22 AM

Well, the LME has some water in it. So you'll need more of it to equal the amount of DME.

A good rule of thumb is 1 pound grain = .75 pound LME = .6 pound DME.

 lakedawgs 02-19-2011 04:36 AM

OK, so if a recipe calls for 6lbs of extract, then that is 6lbs of powder or 2, 3.3lb cans of liquid, in its simplest explanation.
Lakedawgs

 lumpher 02-19-2011 04:58 AM

yes. they sell it in 3 lb bags of dme and 3.3 lb cans of lme for a reason. they come to the same abv

 Duffman53 02-21-2011 03:34 AM

In "The Complete Joy of Homebrewing" Charlies Papazian mentions that you should feel free to use LME in place of DME and vice versa. The rule of thumb that he gives is that if you are using liquid malt extract in place of the dry malt extract to use around seventeen to twenty percent more LME.

So, for your recipe that calls for six pounds of DME you should probably be using seven pounds of LME or a little over that.

LME is also cheaper than DME, too, if that has any influence over using one over the other.

Happy Brewing!
Duffman53

 TTB-J 02-21-2011 03:56 AM

If the recipe calls for DME and you want to use LME, add 25% to what the recipe calls for. If the recipe calls for LME and you want to use DME, only use 80% of what the recipe calls for. But yes, feel free to use whichever one is easier for you.

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