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Old 01-30-2013, 11:43 AM   #951
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OK.. this one I will have to sit back and let the experts comment on.

Just a few questions though:

How long has it been in secondary..? When did the film show up ? Have you taste tested it from under the film..?

I personally would taste test it and bottle it but leave a bit more in the carboy.. as to not get that in it.. Because since its in secondary, its already beer. Just a matter of it tastes bad or not.

Also as someone has also pointed out.. you can not get sick from anything in Beer..

(And someone says I don't listen.. its the SWMBO.. but I digress)


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Old 01-30-2013, 11:45 AM   #952
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I've never seen that kind of carboy, that's different.
Mystery solved:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/reviews/early-mr-beer.html

Finally got some answers from the Mr Beer forum.


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It has only been in secondary for four days and last night I noticed this. It has a little more than that on it this morning. I was gonna wait about two weeks before bottling but do I need to get it bottled sooner? Haven't tasted yet
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:33 PM   #954
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Hmm.. only four days. Does it look oily to you or opaque and whitish..?

Most infections I have seen that were definitely infections the plaques grew, started creating tendrils, and bubbles and were opaque looking.

Non-infections that were "contaminated" with coffee & Chocolate oils, Vanilla bean stuff, etc.. had a more of an oily composition.. and didn't grow to much more than a thin film or junk.

To me it looks like it COULD simply be just the vodka and vanilla beans..

As I mentioned there are much better experts at this than me.. I haven't had one yet. But did a lot of research on it when I thought my batches were infected and have seen other friends that brew get them.

Seems your options are:

Keep an eye on it and see if it grows, and if it starts growing bubbles
(Prove its an infection)

or

Let it ride
(Its beer.. and beer is good.. what it becomes it becomes.. )

or

Bottle it now and let condition in bottles..
(In case it is infection and you can get some beer out now before the infection gets through out the beer)

or

Rerack it into a fresh sanitary secondary, without additions.. and lose the last inch or so.. and see what happens..

If it were me.. I would probably let it ride and see what happens. If it gets too ugly then worry, otherwise it may just be those Vanilla beans and its no big deal.

Often I hear, its best to not look at it.. just let it do its thing, and when bottling time comes you get what you get. 99 times out of 100 it comes out fine.
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It has an oily look to it but also has a few white spots also. Thanks for all your help. I think I'm going to just let it ride for another week or so and go from there.
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Yea, if the big plaques on the water are oily, and then a few white spots. I would say its the Vanilla and some yeast rafts.
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How long would you normal keep it in the secondary if you were adding an extract, to get the maximum out of the additions?
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I'm so surprised at how many people throw out beer!! Just bottle it and see what happens!! You're not going to die or anything! Tons of common foods and drinks are "infected" and are perfectly safe to consume.
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Yep.. My first batch is barely drinkable, not sure if its infection or a poor job making it.. But I am drinking it.
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How long would you normal keep it in the secondary if you were adding an extract, to get the maximum out of the additions?
Not sure.. 2 weeks would be my guess.


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