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02-14-2013, 10:46 PM
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I'm thinking your still fermenting is whats going on here. The Krausen should have fallen all the way through to the trub.
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Well, here is what it looks like after 3 more days. Any ideas?
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02-15-2013, 11:59 AM
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jethro -- yours looks ok to me. keep us posted.
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02-15-2013, 03:23 PM
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Well, here is what it looks like after 3 more days. Any ideas?
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Looks like your still fermenting.. What were your gravity readings?
That said some bigger than normal bubbles there.. but that could be from something in the beer itself and completely fine. because overall it just looks like bubbles.
I don't see any of the plaques and scum you normally see in an bacteria infection.
I think your fine.
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02-15-2013, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by neudson
I think i got my first infection on my second batch. Here is a picture of it. What do you think? Lactobacillus or just mold?
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Could be scum from something in the beer itself.. While the plaque looks like Lacto, there are no bubbles or strings running through it.
Style of beer ?
Did you get a Krausen or not..?
Is this in the primary or secondary..?
Put anything in the secondary for it to sit on..?
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02-15-2013, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Channel66
Lil bit o bugs.
Nice and clear though!

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I think that's just leftovers and oils from dry hopping. Could be wrong..
Taste it and if its good its good..
No matter what "infection" or "Junk" you get in your beer. Nothing that can hurt you grows in beer. Just things to make you go EWWWWW when you look at it or make the beer taste off or sour.
So if it tastes good, bottle it and forget what you saw floating in it.
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02-15-2013, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CDGoin
Looks like your still fermenting.. What were your gravity readings?
That said some bigger than normal bubbles there.. but that could be from something in the beer itself and completely fine. because overall it just looks like bubbles.
I don't see any of the plaques and scum you normally see in an bacteria infection.
I think your fine.
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It seems to be expanding to cover more of the surface. And when the bubbles get giant, they do burst. It started at OG 1.047 and was at 1.010 when I transferred. These are on target with the BB recipe pamphlet.
It might be nothing. There is a lot of head-space in the carboy and there might not have been enough CO2 in suspension when transferred. It might be full of air.
The mad scientist in me wants to let it go and study it for a couple of more weeks. But the beer drinker in me is stronger (and it still smells great) - and so it heads to the bottles later today.
I am tempted to dose the surface with StarSan Idophor.
I'll follow-up after with notes from the bottles in a week or so. I have seen a number of posts on various boards (around page 85 here) that show this characteristic in secondary. Thank you for the help and comments.
Post Script at bottling: The gravity measurement at bottling was down to 1.005, so it did ferment some more during the 5 days in secondary. (22 days from pitch to bottle) The taste at this point is "Hen's Toothy".
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02-15-2013, 04:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CDGoin
I think that's just leftovers and oils from dry hopping. Could be wrong..
Taste it and if its good its good..
No matter what "infection" or "Junk" you get in your beer. Nothing that can hurt you grows in beer. Just things to make you go EWWWWW when you look at it or make the beer taste off or sour.
So if it tastes good, bottle it and forget what you saw floating in it.
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That's a 7 month old sour saison. What you see on top is a young pediococcus pellicle forming, on bottom is what's left of the lacto infection and the brett after the other bugs have had their way.
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02-15-2013, 06:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CDGoin
Could be scum from something in the beer itself.. While the plaque looks like Lacto, there are no bubbles or strings running through it.
Style of beer ?
Did you get a Krausen or not..?
Is this in the primary or secondary..?
Put anything in the secondary for it to sit on..?
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It's supposed to be a Belgian Ale (Specialty). I've got a Krausen at first 5 days or so, and had SG reading after this. I didn't rack it to a secondary fermentor, it's sitting at same bucket for 2 weeks now. And no, nothing added to the fermentor (at least not intentionally) 
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02-16-2013, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Channel66
That's a 7 month old sour saison. What you see on top is a young pediococcus pellicle forming, on bottom is what's left of the lacto infection and the brett after the other bugs have had their way.
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Ahh.. throwing a wrench in huh..
A deliberate lacto infection.. Not anything I would normally recognize, as I don't like sours 
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02-16-2013, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by neudson
It's supposed to be a Belgian Ale (Specialty). I've got a Krausen at first 5 days or so, and had SG reading after this. I didn't rack it to a secondary fermentor, it's sitting at same bucket for 2 weeks now. And no, nothing added to the fermentor (at least not intentionally) 
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I can't say for certain.. but I do think its probably lacto or mold.. hard to tell.. I would test it and see what it tastes like, If it tastes good bottle from under it or rack to secondary. I have heard of good results if you have a light sourness, to rack with a bit of honey and/or dry hopping.
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