subliminalurge

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Only if you love your children. Totally up to you. Ball's in your court, bud....

I'm just sayin'... This seems like a friendly place. You can brew with extract or all grain. You can batch sparge or fly. You can do 5 gallon batches, 10 gallon, 20, or even 60. You can brew with a tricked out keggle, or a $17 stock pot you got on clearance at Wal-Mart. Hell, you can use plastic buckets and nobody will look down on you.

Hell, you can even make a brew with 2 gallons of apple juice and a pound of sugar, then ferment it in left over milk cartons. And don't boil any of it. Nobody cares.

We're all buds here, and we all get along.

Until you start talking about "hot side aeration". That's when the "drive by's" start happening....

acuenca

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True...thanks for the lookout <slinking back into the shadows>...

stanzela

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This is the first I've heard of the no-stir thing. Interesting. I figure I'm far enough away to admit that I've been giving my wort some nice hearty stirs to help get the temps down.

Not saying that's the right procedure, but I always give a nice hefty swirl. I pretty much do it each time I change the water.

My method, employed to save a bit of ice, is to just put the kettle in a cold water bath (swirl it) and then wait until the water is feeling hot/warm and switch up. After a few of these you'll notice the water stays cool for much longer, and it's at this time that I put in the ice. Usually, if done right, I can just keep adding ice bit by bit (usually 3 trays of cubes and 2-3 small margarine-style containers) and get the most out of all of it, as the water temp never creeps back up too high. The swirl is a big part of the technique for me. I have a double sink so I keep one for the ice bath, and the other as my sanitizing sink. I keep a spoon in there and once I've stirred, just toss it back in the solution to sanitize up until next stir. I feel like you can accomplish a pretty good swirl without too much aeration, but then again I've always assumed that wort aeration was a good thing.

Is the no-stir camp worried about infection?

mdgagne

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I think it has more to do with oxidation.... google "hot side aeration" and pick your camp! :-) either way, remember to RDWHAHB

neovox

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I used the ice bath method for quite a with before getting and IC with absolutely no ill effects. I used cold water first and then drained, not to burn through too much ice, then cold water and ice. In the winter, cold water and snow works fantastic! oh, wait you're in CA..... nevermind... on that snow thing.

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I don't drink water often, but when I do I prefer it with barley and hops.