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sww35 · 10-01-2012, 01:45 AM

I recently had Left Hand Brewing's Black Jack Porter and really like it. I am looking to make a extract similar to their Black Jack Porter. Does anyone have an advice where to find a kit or seek out the proper ingredients for making a similar porter?

DrummerBoySeth · 10-01-2012, 02:15 AM

I have not had that beer yet. What characteristics did you want to try to reproduce? Is the balance more on the hoppy side orcis it more malt focused?

sww35 · 10-01-2012, 02:20 AM

It is more malt focused and very light on the hops. I am not really much into being a hophead myself.

sww35 · 10-01-2012, 06:24 PM

Still seeking some advice on this topic if anyone has some info to offer?

Jeffh97 · 10-01-2012, 06:53 PM

Ill take a stab at it. I have never had this so I really do not know what the taste is but from going on information on their website I came up with this.

8 lb LME
1 lb Wheat Extract

Steep:
1lb Chocolate
.5 lb 120L
.5 lb Munich

Hops
.5 oz Magnum 60 min.
1 oz US Golding 15 min.
.5 oz US Golding 5 min.

Ferment with English yeast maybe S-04.

Sorry if this looks funny for extract as I do not extract brew.

naga77777 · 10-01-2012, 07:00 PM

I can't help with recipe formulation, but here's the stats from left hand's site:

Style- English Style Porter
Color- Dark Brown, 40 SRM
Body- Full
ABV- 6.80%
IBU's- 35
Plato- 16°
Pkg- 6-Pack, Keg
Malts- Pale 2-row, Crystal, Chocolate, Munich and Wheat
Hops- Magnum and US Goldings

Someone here, or at your LHBS, could probably put you together a reasonably close kit.

EDIT: looks like someone beat me to it

sww35 · 10-01-2012, 07:03 PM

Yeah, this will only be my second brew and my first was an extract and I intend for my second to be an extract. However, I really don't have much experience with converting malts into what to expect from an extract. However now I got somewhere to start from with the info from above.

**rifraf** · 10-01-2012, 07:45 PM

If you're doing extract, throw 4oz of maltodextrin in when I you make dark beers. I've noticed a huge improvement in mouth feel and overall beerness in my stouts and porters.

DrummerBoySeth · 10-01-2012, 08:12 PM

Jeff's suggestion is pretty good, but I think his recipe will result in a slightly higher ABV and slightly lower IBU than the brew you are trying to clone. I would try this:

Method: Extract
Style: Brown Porter
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 5 gallons
Boil Size: 3 gallons
Efficiency: 75%
Original Gravity: 1.072
Final Gravity: 1.020
ABV (standard): 6.83%
IBU (tinseth): 34.37
SRM (morey): 32.63

Fermentables
Amount Fermentable PPG °L Bill %
6.5 lb Dry Malt Extract - Light 42 4 68.4%
1 lb Dry Malt Extract - Wheat 42 3 10.5%

Steeping Grains
Amount Fermentable PPG °L Bill %
1 lb Chocolate 29 350 10.5%
0.5 lb Munich - Dark 20L 33 20 5.3%
0.5 lb Caramel / Crystal 120L 33 120 5.3%

Hops
Amount Variety Time AA Type
1 oz Magnum 60 min 15 Pellet
1 oz Goldings 10 min 4.5 Pellet
0.5 oz Goldings 5 min 4.5 Pellet

Yeast
Fermentis / Safale - Safale - English Ale Yeast S-04

This recipe has a slightly smaller grain bill (less extract) and slightly more hops than the one Jeff suggested. The hops addition schedule was also changed slightly. I think it will get you a little closer to the beer you are trying to clone, but I think either his recipe or this one would make excellent beer.

I calculated this recipe using a 3 gallon partial boil since I did not know the size of your brew kettle. If your pot is able to boil more than 3 gallons, I can recalculate the IBUs for the new boil volume and see if we need to modify the hops to keep the bitterness where you want it.

Jeffh97 · 10-01-2012, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrummerBoySeth

Jeff's suggestion is pretty good, but I think his recipe will result in a slightly higher ABV and slightly lower IBU than the brew you are trying to clone. I would try this:

Method: Extract
Style: Brown Porter
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 5 gallons
Boil Size: 3 gallons
Efficiency: 75%
Original Gravity: 1.072
Final Gravity: 1.020
ABV (standard): 6.83%
IBU (tinseth): 34.37
SRM (morey): 32.63

Fermentables
Amount Fermentable PPG °L Bill %
6.5 lb Dry Malt Extract - Light 42 4 68.4%
1 lb Dry Malt Extract - Wheat 42 3 10.5%

Steeping Grains
Amount Fermentable PPG °L Bill %
1 lb Chocolate 29 350 10.5%
0.5 lb Munich - Dark 20L 33 20 5.3%
0.5 lb Caramel / Crystal 120L 33 120 5.3%

Hops
Amount Variety Time AA Type
1 oz Magnum 60 min 15 Pellet
1 oz Goldings 10 min 4.5 Pellet
0.5 oz Goldings 5 min 4.5 Pellet

Yeast
Fermentis / Safale - Safale - English Ale Yeast S-04

This recipe has a slightly smaller grain bill (less extract) and slightly more hops than the one Jeff suggested. The hops addition schedule was also changed slightly. I think it will get you a little closer to the beer you are trying to clone, but I think either his recipe or this one would make excellent beer.

I calculated this recipe using a 3 gallon partial boil since I did not know the size of your brew kettle. If your pot is able to boil more than 3 gallons, I can recalculate the IBUs for the new boil volume and see if we need to modify the hops to keep the bitterness where you want it.

I must of been working off poor numbers online at hopville. I do not have Beer Smith on this computer, which is what I formulate all my recipes in. The recipe I built was 1.065 OG 39.8 SRM and 34.6 IBU according to that sight if i remember correctly. I thought the extract seemed like a bit much from what I could remember but I only did a few extract batches.