Happy HolidaySs Giveaway - Last Sponsor Giveaway of the Year!

Come Enter the BrewDeals/FastFerment Giveaway!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > Pop corn
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-20-2014, 07:31 PM   #1
Ster
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 310
Liked 11 Times on 9 Posts

Default Pop corn

I have been reading some realling interesting posts about pop corn.

I understand that it doesn't have to be mashed because of the heat during the popping.

So....
If doing an extract recipe, do you simply steep the popcorn in a mesh bag for 30 min like a specialty grain? Do you crush it first?

__________________
Ster is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-20-2014, 07:43 PM   #2
Ster
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 310
Liked 11 Times on 9 Posts

Default

A similar question: Can flaked maize be steeped in a grain bag?

__________________
Ster is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-20-2014, 07:58 PM   #3
boydster
Round Earther
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
boydster's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: , Maine
Posts: 2,799
Liked 747 Times on 518 Posts
Likes Given: 600

Default

It does need to be mashed, but you don't need to do cereal mash beforehand to gelatinize the starches like you would if you were using whole kernels. If you don't do a regular mash, you'll have a lot of starch. I made a cream ale recently with popcorn, and I like it. Even a pound looks like a TON of popcorn at first, but when it gets wet it starts to dissolve in the mash and shrinks a lot.

__________________

Check out these cool kits at Know How Brews & Foods!

Big Jim Walker IIPA
Allagash-ishhh White Ale
Happy Hoppy Blonde Ale

boydster is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-20-2014, 08:32 PM   #4
AndytheBeave
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 61
Liked 11 Times on 10 Posts
Likes Given: 13

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by boydster View Post
It does need to be mashed, but you don't need to do cereal mash beforehand to gelatinize the starches like you would if you were using whole kernels. If you don't do a regular mash, you'll have a lot of starch. I made a cream ale recently with popcorn, and I like it. Even a pound looks like a TON of popcorn at first, but when it gets wet it starts to dissolve in the mash and shrinks a lot.
I brewed up a pop corn ale a few of weeks ago which I will crash cool this weekend and then keg. I included it in the regular mash with 2 row and biscuit malt. Everything went great until I tried to recirculate the wort and wouldn't you know it, the process was stuck. Then in attempting to "unstick" the recirculation, I dislodged the filter from the valve. So now I had an igloo cooler full of 154 Deg F wort and no way to filter and drain it. The brew day (from an outside observer) was a bit of a hilarious gong show. In the end, somehow a miracle occurred and I had an OG of 1.051 and the boil went off (almost) without a hitch.
Long story short, yeah you'll need to mash the popcorn. In doing so, maybe be a bit smarter about it than me
__________________
AndytheBeave is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-20-2014, 11:37 PM   #5
boydster
Round Earther
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
boydster's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: , Maine
Posts: 2,799
Liked 747 Times on 518 Posts
Likes Given: 600

Default

Ha! I'm laughing, but that sounds like it was a PITA at the time. I do BIAB, so getting the popcorn and grains out of the kettle was a cinch. Haven't ever tried it in a traditional tun.

__________________

Check out these cool kits at Know How Brews & Foods!

Big Jim Walker IIPA
Allagash-ishhh White Ale
Happy Hoppy Blonde Ale

boydster is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-20-2014, 11:51 PM   #6
Malticulous
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: St. George Utah
Posts: 4,137
Liked 56 Times on 47 Posts
Likes Given: 74

Default

The big problem is popping it. I never had it slow down the runoff, if fact is seems to runoff better than all malt does.

__________________
Malticulous is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-21-2014, 12:30 AM   #7
AndytheBeave
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 61
Liked 11 Times on 10 Posts
Likes Given: 13

Default

I can't prove that it was the popcorn that caused the runoff problems but it happened none the less. It could attributed to one of those PSAs: Don't drink a ton of beer before mashing in.

Quote:
Originally Posted by boydster View Post
Ha! I'm laughing, but that sounds like it was a PITA at the time. I do BIAB, so getting the popcorn and grains out of the kettle was a cinch. Haven't ever tried it in a traditional tun.
Yeah my wife was laughing too - until she saw spent grain and wort spilled all over the floor as I tried to reattach the filter. Not to mention the swearing.
I don't know about you but I totally underestimated just how much volume a pound and a half of popped popcorn is.
So I gotta ask, how on Earth did you fit it all into your brewing bag?!?

I think to answer the OP's question, if you're doing an extract brew, you will want to mash the popcorn for a full 60 minutes. boydster has proven you can do it BIAB style - but you'll need a big kettle for sure.
And my last advice, take note of what I did for this, and do the opposite
__________________
AndytheBeave is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-21-2014, 01:04 AM   #8
boydster
Round Earther
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
boydster's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: , Maine
Posts: 2,799
Liked 747 Times on 518 Posts
Likes Given: 600

Default

I added it to the mash last, after the rest of the grain was stirred in, and I do full volume mashes so there was plenty of water to help keep things easy to stir. But yeah, it's a lot of popcorn and doesn't look like it will fit until the water starts melting it down.

__________________

Check out these cool kits at Know How Brews & Foods!

Big Jim Walker IIPA
Allagash-ishhh White Ale
Happy Hoppy Blonde Ale

boydster is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Flaked corn vs. corn sugar (dextrose monohydrate) MikeBTexas General Beer Discussion 12 02-14-2014 01:23 AM
converting corn grits to corn maize nathan33 Recipes/Ingredients 5 01-19-2014 05:43 AM
buddy used corn startch instead of corn sugar pleasehelp Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 11 01-09-2014 05:41 AM
Recipe using field corn or sweet corn CEversole Recipes/Ingredients 9 10-02-2012 02:52 PM
degerminated corn grits or corn meal Kaiser All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 18 04-06-2011 02:57 AM



Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS