I am about to do a pale ale and was going to use centennial for bittering and cascade for flavor and aroma...I can't get centennial at my local brew shop. So should I use EK goldings, Columbus, or Hallertaur..I would like a mild bodyed ale not extremly overpowering with the hops..Any suggestions?
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Columbus is closest. Goldings is more for English/Irish ales and Hallertauer for lagers.
This site: http://www.highgravitybrew.com/BeerHops/Centennialhopsprofile.html recommends substituting 70% Columbus and 30% Cascade for Centennial. I wonder if it's primarily to get the AA% down. Columbus has a higher average AA% so cutting it with Cascade will get the AA% closer to what Centennial would have been.
Since you're only substituting the bittering (vs. aroma/flavor) hop, the beer shouldn't be too affected, assuming you keep it to the same IBUs. Use a program or online recipe calculator to experiment with hop additions to get the IBUs you're looking for.
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there is a good section on hops here http://www.howtobrew.com/section1/chapter5-3.html . It lists columbus as a substitute for centennial. If you find yourself using a certain hop a lot you might look at buying some in bulk from hopsdirect.
Since you're only substituting the bittering (vs. aroma/flavor) hop, the beer shouldn't be too affected, assuming you keep it to the same IBUs. Use a program or online recipe calculator to experiment with hop additions to get the IBUs you're looking for.
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Definitely want to make sure your IBUs stay around the same. Otherwise you'll end up with either too hoppy or too malty of a beer.
I have posted several different recipes for a pale ale recipe and have just about refined it, I have done tons of research and can not figure out what to pair with cascade hops. I would like to do something different and don't want to use centennial or columbus. So I was thinking
1oz cascade 60 min
1/2oz e kent goldings 20 min
1/4 oz cascade 15 min
1/4 oz cascade 5min
I have posted several different recipes for a pale ale recipe and have just about refined it, I have done tons of research and can not figure out what to pair with cascade hops. I would like to do something different and don't want to use centennial or columbus. So I was thinking
1oz cascade 60 min
1/2oz e kent goldings 20 min
1/4 oz cascade 15 min
1/4 oz cascade 5min
I personally would go with perle.I would use it for the 60 min boil IMO
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I think you're asking if those EKG's will go well, right? EKG is a beautiful and delicate hop. I don't think you'll be able to notice it. Cascade is much more assertive. Perhaps pair them with something more like amarillo, simcoe, glacier, cluster, any NW hop should do it...
EDIT: also, if you want something to pair well, try adding a 50/50 mix at the end rather than just a 20 minute addition as the cascade will more than likely cover it up.
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I think you're asking if those EKG's will go well, right? EKG is a beautiful and delicate hop. I don't think you'll be able to notice it. Cascade is much more assertive. Perhaps pair them with something more like amarillo, simcoe, glacier, cluster, any NW hop should do it...
EDIT: also, if you want something to pair well, try adding a 50/50 mix at the end rather than just a 20 minute addition as the cascade will more than likely cover it up.
That is absloutly waht I am asking. I am having a tough time tring to find good hop pairings.
You got me thinking about a beer I made a while back. I bittered with cascade and did a 50/50 even split of cascade and willamette at 20, 10 , and flameout. It was great. I need to make that one again real soon now that I think about it.
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