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Old 04-08-2008, 02:24 AM   #1
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Default Please help me design a recipe with these.....

Can someone please advice a decent (not too difficult) recipe with the following ingredients. Iv never boiled before only mixed with boiling water :-)

2x Cans Amber Malt Extract Syrup 1.5kg each (3.3lbs each)
Hop Pellets - NZ Hallertau Aroma Alpha 8.6 100g net (3.52 oz net)
Saflager s-23 dry lager yeast - 11.5g

Chilli Bin with poly-lid.

Newly brought (only NZ $17 new!) 12 litre pot! Standard brew size 23L so its just over half of that.

Can someone please advice a good boil recipe for these? I'd like the beer to have a decent amount of hop bite. I don't need to use all the malt in the 2x cans, but would be hard to keep half a can or so left maybe?

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Old 04-08-2008, 02:48 AM   #3
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Do you have any other yeasts, or does it have to be a lager?

Hey again!

Iv also got a yeast packet left over from "Muntons Premium Lager Can Kit". Its in a silver packet with "QVB" on it, if that means anything to you? Im not sure if its really a lager or ale yeast. I used the same Saflager s-23 dry lager yeast with that can kit so have the muntons yeast left.

Other then that, the only yeast the shop had for ale was Saflagers ale yeast (blue packet instead of yellow).
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Are you still there "YooperBrew"? Does anyone else know of a good way to add hops to the boil etc, and how much malt to use? Thanks

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Oh just one more thing I thought of... iv got the 100g of hop pellets. What happens to these once they are boiled for an hour? Do they dissolve in the malt/water? Or do they need to be filtered out? I haven't opened the packet yet to see them!

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Old 04-08-2008, 10:50 AM   #6
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I have not yet tackled a lager, so I can't help you there, but you could attempt a California Common ale, which uses lager yeast at ale temperatures. John Palmer has a recipe for one here.

It looks like you could hit the style using all of the LME (for a SG of about 1.043). An ounce of the hops for 60 and a quarter ounce for 15 minutes would give you 40-50 IBUs, which is at the hoppy end of the range for the style.

I dunno...I'm just noodling around in ProMash here. Regardless, it will turn out as beer, and might even be pretty good.

In response to your second question: they kind of dissolve, and make a strainer-plugging sludge at the bottom of your brew pot. It's not the end of the world, but it's a little more work to get your wort into the fermenter.

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I assume you can't get any steeping grains, like crystal/caramel? You can make a good beer with what you have- but it'd be better and a truer lager if you could find some crystal 40 or something like that.

Your hallertau AAUs seems high at 8.6%, mine are usually in the 4.2% AAU range, but I came up with this

5 gallon batch
6.6 pounds of LME
.75 ounces of hallertau 60 minutes
.50 ounces of hallertau 15 minutes

Bring 2.5 gallons of water to a boil (US gallons- I don't know other measurements!) and remove from heat and add one can of extract, stirring until dissolved Bring to a boil again, and when when boiling, start your timer for 60 minutes. Add first addition of hallertau. After 45 minutes of boiling (15 minutes left), add the second hallertau hops and remove from heat and add the second can of extract. Stir well, so it doesn't scorch on the bottom, and return to heat. Boil for 15 minutes then cool. Top up with water to 5 US gallons.

Your OG should be 1.047, FG should be around 1.012 IBUs 28

Since you're using lager yeast, ferment at 50 degrees if you can.

That is just a "plain" recipe.

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My Hallertaus are 6%...

I think if you are able to get the temp down to 50-55 and maintain it you could make a nice Amber Marzen (Oktoberfest) brew with what you have.

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I assume you can't get any steeping grains, like crystal/caramel? You can make a good beer with what you have- but it'd be better and a truer lager if you could find some crystal 40 or something like that.

Your hallertau AAUs seems high at 8.6%, mine are usually in the 4.2% AAU range, but I came up with this

5 gallon batch
6.6 pounds of LME
.75 ounces of hallertau 60 minutes
.50 ounces of hallertau 15 minutes

Bring 2.5 gallons of water to a boil (US gallons- I don't know other measurements!) and remove from heat and add one can of extract, stirring until dissolved Bring to a boil again, and when when boiling, start your timer for 60 minutes. Add first addition of hallertau. After 45 minutes of boiling (15 minutes left), add the second hallertau hops and remove from heat and add the second can of extract. Stir well, so it doesn't scorch on the bottom, and return to heat. Boil for 15 minutes then cool. Top up with water to 5 US gallons.

Your OG should be 1.047, FG should be around 1.012 IBUs 28

Since you're using lager yeast, ferment at 50 degrees if you can.

That is just a "plain" recipe.
They had "real barley", but they said at the store ya need to put it into a net etc when you boil it. There were a number of diff grains though cant remember now. Was a lot cheaper then can extract too! I haven't even used hops before so wanted to stick to one new thing at a time :-)

Lucky I got the "hallertau AAUs at 8.6%", as they had this one that was 15% there! Am guessing its for a pilsner or something?

Recipe looks good am going to stick to it! Seems easy enough, just gotta be careful measuring hops. So once the hops are in the boil they dissolve? EG, don't need filtered out?

As soon as my other brew is done I can start fermenting! Yopper, what do you think the FG would be on this one thats currently fermenting?

Muntons Light Malt Extract Can 1.8kg
Brewcraft Brewblend #20 1kg
Brewcraft Goldings Finishing Hops 12g, (4 - 6.5% what ever this means...)
Saflager S-23 Dry Lager Yeast

OG was high at 1054, after 2 weeks its 1020. Fermentation stopped after a week (bubbling at least). Pitched at 18*C in chilli-bin, has steadily climbed down to 11*C. Am thinking it should be 1015? Mind you the yeast says "med fermentation".
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I'd only be able to give you a rough guess as to the FG of your current batch- it should be in the 1.014-1.018 range, depending on what "medium" means for attenuation.

The grains I was talking about are different types of specialty grains of malted barley, and you DO need a mesh sack or grain bag for them. One pound of something like a light crystal (also called caramel) will not replace your extract, but can add to it greatly. You don't boil those grains, you steep them at 150-160 degrees in that bag, then throw them away. This will really improve the taste and texture, and head retention in your beer.

Still, you're fine with the recipe we've made up. Like you said, one step at a time!

You don't have to strain out the hops after the boil, although some people do use a sanitized strainer and pour the cooled wort through it. It doesn't affect the taste or final product at all, so you can do whichever you want. After the wort is cooled, most of the hops sludge will settle to the bottom of the kettle and you can either pour all your wort in, or stain it out. Whichever you prefer.

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