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Old 08-14-2012, 12:17 PM   #11
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+1 to S-05. I've not had good luck with smacking those packs.
Smacking the nutrient packs is not necessary for viable yeast...its just a "fun little trick" to swell the pack so you know they are viable.
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Old 08-14-2012, 12:51 PM   #12
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Definitely looks like no activity, I am having the same problem but I have foam and krausen on the top, not a lot but enough to think something is going on. There just hasn't been any off gassing in two days. I am guessing I have a leak somewhere. Good luck with yours

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Old 08-14-2012, 04:40 PM   #13
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From the looks of it I'm glad you re-pitched. Even if it was slow there should be some sign.

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Old 08-14-2012, 04:56 PM   #14
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It does look like you had no fermentation starting.

I have never gotten any Wyeast with 2 or even divided nutrient pouches. I have always made starters and never a failure.

Last summer when I started I used dry yeast for my first few. I then did some with Wyeast and had no problems with them. I may have been lucky having cool weather when mine were shipped.?.?

This year I have dry yeast by shipping and liquid from my LHBS.

If you have a Wyeast pack where the inner pouch does not break it would be the same as if you used a vial of White Labs yeast. The nutrient just gives the yeast a little feeding to give them a head start.

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Old 08-14-2012, 10:46 PM   #15
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Getting 2 bubbles per second. We are rockin now!

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Old 08-15-2012, 12:59 AM   #16
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Time to kick back and relax!

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Old 08-15-2012, 01:46 AM   #17
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Good lesson learned though to always have some S-05 on hand. It comes through in a pinch and is a great yeast in its own right.

...and you didn't have to learn it the hard way because you will soon have beer on hand.

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Old 08-15-2012, 02:31 AM   #18
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Smacking the nutrient packs is not necessary for viable yeast.
I'm talking about the whole f-ing pack. First two brews: followed directions, smacked, failed to swell. Opened it up with scissors, pack not open. Poured into a sterile container and let it set. Pitched and fermented fine. Third time, hit it too hard, blew yeast all over the kitchen. Frak those yeast packs, not worth the effort. :-)
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:46 AM   #19
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I'm talking about the whole f-ing pack. First two brews: followed directions, smacked, failed to swell. Opened it up with scissors, pack not open. Poured into a sterile container and let it set. Pitched and fermented fine. Third time, hit it too hard, blew yeast all over the kitchen. Frak those yeast packs, not worth the effort. :-)
eh, IMHO the only reason wyeast and white labs exists is to supply me with yeast for which there is not a reasonable approximation in dry yeast.

So, sometimes, it's a reasonable product to use, but provides at best 1/5th as many viable cells as an 11g pack of dry yeast - so starters are required. So the nutrient pack is just to see if the yeast is still alive.
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:40 AM   #20
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This is why I would always make a starter from liquid yeast. I also like to ensure I'm pitching more than enough yeast. Starters are too cheap and easy to not do them.

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