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Old 08-05-2008, 02:37 AM   #1
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Default Pellet Hops - Boil Timetable

Hi,

Iv used pallet hops a number of times, but still don't REALLY know what times are best to use them in the boil. I usually base it on others recipes.

Obviously the beer style is going to determine the hop timetable to a degree.

For a bittering hop, say 10% AA or more, they are generally boiled for an hour in all recipes. Since there is very little aroma and total bitterness does it actually matter what bittering hop you use? Only the IBU's would be important? Most NZ hops are 12% + for bittering, so was thinking the higher % would be cheaper as can use less of it.

Say we're talking IPA for the next few questions, would bittering hops (10% +) be used any other time then 60min boil?

With aroma hops (4-7%) say, is there any point in boiling more then 20min? If you boiled for 30min, wouldn't you lose the aroma and get bugger all bitterness for the $$$ ?)

Some recipes use the same hop at say 15min/10min/5min, what does this actually do? As you would get more aroma at 5min?

If you are using 1x bittering hop and 2x aroma hops, is there any rules or guidelines on the times to use them? Could you put both aroma hops at say 10min to get more complex aroma?

Sorry for this long winded post, just trying to work hops out better.

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Old 08-05-2008, 03:00 AM   #2
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Hi,

Yes, you can use high AA hops for bittering. Yes it is true they are mostly used for bittering, however different types will yield slightly different beers(much less variation then say using a different flavor or aroma hop).

As per hopping schedule, assuming a 60 minute boil:

60 minutes-bittering hops
30-15 minutes-flavor hops
<5-aroma hops

Times in between will add a combination of elements.

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Hi,

Yes, you can use high AA hops for bittering. Yes it is true they are mostly used for bittering, however different types will yield slightly different beers(much less variation then say using a different flavor or aroma hop).

As per hopping schedule, assuming a 60 minute boil:

60 minutes-bittering hops
30-15 minutes-flavor hops
<5-aroma hops

Times in between will add a combination of elements.
Thanks for that, makes it easier to see now. I didn't think of a middle "flavour" secton. Would using a small amount of a 12% hop at 30min work? Or is that still the aroma hops job?
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Different hop varieties have different uses. A bittering hop is not always a suitable addition for flavor. You will want to get the bulk of your bittering from the early addition hops. You will want to pick a suitable flavor/aroma hops for the beer your are brewing.

Also, adding at 30 minutes you will be depleting most of the flavor and pretty much all the aroma.

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Try the Recipator. When you go to select hops you will probably not find certain varieties. Just choose any hop, you can change the name and AA% later.

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Different hop varieties have different uses. A bittering hop is not always a suitable addition for flavor. You will want to get the bulk of your bittering from the early addition hops. You will want to pick a suitable flavor/aroma hops for the beer your are brewing.

Also, adding at 30 minutes you will be depleting most of the flavor and pretty much all the aroma.
Which is why many breweries add 30 minute hops to get a very "grassy" flavor, right? No flavor in a 30 minute flavor addition, no sir.
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