Happy HolidaySs Giveaway - Winners Re-Re-Re-Re-Drawn - 24 hours to Claim!

Get your HBT Growlers, Shirts and Membership before the Rush!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > The OCD of home brewing.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-08-2005, 04:49 PM   #1
Fudd
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 49
Default The OCD of home brewing.

I have this near paralyzing fear of my beer getting contaminated. I try to sterlize the primary fermenter like 1 minute before I pour the wort in, and if I leave it standing there for a couple of minutes I start getting panicked. I would never open my primary during fermentation for fear of infection. I have this fear that I'm going to think that it is done fermenting, then open it and it won't be...This is what happened my last batch: I thought the beer was done fermenting so I started cleaning the bottles without opening it to see if it had reached final gravity, about half way through I realized how stupid that was so I opened it. Now here is the real obsessive compulsive part I want to take a hydrometer reading so I need to put the lid somewhere, I try sliding it to one side but the perspiration starts going all over the floor so I flip it upside down quick and the airlock starts pouring into the beer, in a panick I take the lid and leave it in the bathroom sink and take my reading. The beer is ready for bottling but I still have half the bottles to wash. Now I can't just leave the container open, because the BEER WILL DIE!!! and I can't put the lid back on because it has been sitting in the sink and is contaminated, I decide to disinfect the lid about the same time that I remember that I'm out of the disinfectant. I decide to leave the lid off and continue with the bottles but I'm just thinking of the poor beer sitting downstairs, alone, helpless, so I run back down and put the lid on anyways and hope for the best...Anyways the beer turned out fine but I was wondering if maybe I'm overdoing it a bit and what are the necessary precautions if you are going to open the fermenter and close it again.

__________________
Fudd is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-08-2005, 05:00 PM   #2
homebrewer_99
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
homebrewer_99's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Atkinson (near the Quad Cities), IL
Posts: 17,951
Liked 88 Times on 77 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

You have a lot of things going on in your post so I'll just start by saying "Take a chill pill"!! You are over reacting! (But I feel your anguish!)

You are being way too cautious, but that's better than complacency.

Next time that happens just cover it up with Saran wrap or aluminum foil. You can place your lid on top of either one of them and go finish cleaning your bottles.

Perspiration? Are you brewing in a sauna? LMAO!

Next time just open up the container to take a hydrometer reading just lean the lid up against the side of the container. The lip of the lid will keep the inside from coming into contact with anything that could contaminate the lid.

If you decide it's ready to bottle then go sanitize your bottles. Just place the lid back on it'll be OK.

__________________
HB Bill

homebrewer_99 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-08-2005, 05:42 PM   #3
BlightyBrewer
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
BlightyBrewer's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Leicestershire, UK
Posts: 710
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

Hey Fudd, you need to read Charlie Papazian's book...in his words "Relax, don't worry, have a homebrew"

Yeah sure, cleanliness and sanitising is important, and there are nasties out there, but remember it is cleanliness and sanitising, not sterilising! This isn't an operating theatre! Maybe you should take a tour round a local microbrewery and see how those guys go about the process of brewing. Yeah microbreweries aren't exactly the same as homebrewing with the scale and kit and all, but it might help you to relax when you see their practices when it comes to cleanliness, and how great the beer turns out!

Hope this helps, and happy brewing!

__________________
Beer....the Duke of all Beverages.
BlightyBrewer is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-08-2005, 07:51 PM   #4
SwAMi75
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
SwAMi75's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Midwest City, OK
Posts: 2,492
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts

Default

My (then) 2 1/2 yr old son sneezed in ORRELSE's very first batch as it sat in his bottling bucket. Came out fine!

__________________
May you go marching in three-measure time
Dressed up as asses, drunk to the nines
Swing from the rafters, shouting those songs
Gone unsung for far too long

SwAMi75 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-08-2005, 07:55 PM   #5
OtherWhiteMeat
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Rochester, MN
Posts: 173
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam75
My (then) 2 1/2 yr old son sneezed in ORRELSE's very first batch as it sat in his bottling bucket. Came out fine!
Hahahaha thats the funnyest thing ive heard yet!!!
__________________

Still a newb, but im brewin' myself through it!

Up next:
Primary:
Bottled: Franziskaner Hefeweizen
Bottled: Light American Pale Ale
Bottled: Newcastle clone
Bottled: Light Honey Ale
Bottled: Apple Cider (Tastes more like sweet wine)
Bottled: Apricot Ale(finished)

OtherWhiteMeat is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-08-2005, 08:12 PM   #6
joeyuwp
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Appleton, WI
Posts: 60
Default

Yeah I was siphoning from secondary to the bottling bucket (which I had on the floor) and my dog came over and decided to take a look in. A few pieces of hair were floating in it and I'm sure drool got in but it ended up being my best batch. Never told anyone who drank it about the dog though

__________________
joeyuwp is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-08-2005, 09:17 PM   #7
Cheesefood
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Poo-Poo Land
Posts: 6,809
Liked 33 Times on 22 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fudd
I have this near paralyzing fear of my beer getting contaminated. I try to sterlize the primary fermenter like 1 minute before I pour the wort in, and if I leave it standing there for a couple of minutes I start getting panicked. I would never open my primary during fermentation for fear of infection. I have this fear that I'm going to think that it is done fermenting, then open it and it won't be...This is what happened my last batch: I thought the beer was done fermenting so I started cleaning the bottles without opening it to see if it had reached final gravity, about half way through I realized how stupid that was so I opened it. Now here is the real obsessive compulsive part I want to take a hydrometer reading so I need to put the lid somewhere, I try sliding it to one side but the perspiration starts going all over the floor so I flip it upside down quick and the airlock starts pouring into the beer, in a panick I take the lid and leave it in the bathroom sink and take my reading. The beer is ready for bottling but I still have half the bottles to wash. Now I can't just leave the container open, because the BEER WILL DIE!!! and I can't put the lid back on because it has been sitting in the sink and is contaminated, I decide to disinfect the lid about the same time that I remember that I'm out of the disinfectant. I decide to leave the lid off and continue with the bottles but I'm just thinking of the poor beer sitting downstairs, alone, helpless, so I run back down and put the lid on anyways and hope for the best...Anyways the beer turned out fine but I was wondering if maybe I'm overdoing it a bit and what are the necessary precautions if you are going to open the fermenter and close it again.

Ever heard of Belgium? You can just pretend you live there.
__________________
Past Winners: Caramel Cream Ale #1, Hoegaarden Clone, Boom-Boom Vanilla Ale, Lazy Monk Abbey Style, Amarillo Cream Ale. (AG),

Buy a shirt now!!! Please! Did I help you? Buya shirt!
Cool Shirts.


Cheesefood is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-08-2005, 10:07 PM   #8
trailmix
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 20
Default

a few small tips.. I work ina biology lab and sterility is a key factor in the work.

Firstly, if your house (or work area) is clean enough to walk in without shoes then your chances of catching a "passing by" infection is pretty small.

Second, it takes more than just a single (or few hundred for that matter) bacteria to cause an infection. Just like you need a few million viable yeast cells to start the fermentation the same is true for an infection.

Third, after you sterilize something (like beer bottles) let them dry and cover with tin foil. This is what we do for all of our glassware in the lab and it is an effective means for maintaing sterility. (of course having access to an auto-clave is nice too)

Lastly, get yourself a spray bottle and fill it with 10% ethanol solution (10% in water) This can be sprayed on EVERYTHING, it dries quickly and kills everything. Spray it on the rim of the bucket 10minutes before openeing it, spray it on the airlock, the bung, the thermometer etc. before using them. Give it a few minutes to dry and then wipe clean with a paper towel. You'll kill any nasties. Other than that, just chill and have some brew. I am fairly new at this but so far-so good with no infection! (And i sanitize my carboys with bleach in the bath tub! )

Good luck,
~mix

__________________

Primary: Autumn Cherry Ale

Secondary #1: Happy Holiday Ale

Secondary #2: Empty

Bottled/Aging: Hammersmith Hefeweizen

Bottled/Drinking: nothing yet!

trailmix is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-08-2005, 10:18 PM   #9
SwAMi75
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
SwAMi75's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Midwest City, OK
Posts: 2,492
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by trailmix
a few small tips.. I work ina biology lab and sterility is a key factor in the work.

Firstly, if your house (or work area) is clean enough to walk in without shoes then your chances of catching a "passing by" infection is pretty small.

Second, it takes more than just a single (or few hundred for that matter) bacteria to cause an infection. Just like you need a few million viable yeast cells to start the fermentation the same is true for an infection.

Third, after you sterilize something (like beer bottles) let them dry and cover with tin foil. This is what we do for all of our glassware in the lab and it is an effective means for maintaing sterility. (of course having access to an auto-clave is nice too)

Lastly, get yourself a spray bottle and fill it with 10% ethanol solution (10% in water) This can be sprayed on EVERYTHING, it dries quickly and kills everything. Spray it on the rim of the bucket 10minutes before openeing it, spray it on the airlock, the bung, the thermometer etc. before using them. Give it a few minutes to dry and then wipe clean with a paper towel. You'll kill any nasties. Other than that, just chill and have some brew. I am fairly new at this but so far-so good with no infection! (And i sanitize my carboys with bleach in the bath tub! )

Good luck,
~mix
Good stuff!
__________________
May you go marching in three-measure time
Dressed up as asses, drunk to the nines
Swing from the rafters, shouting those songs
Gone unsung for far too long

SwAMi75 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-08-2005, 10:47 PM   #10
McCall St. Brewer
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Monroe, Louisiana
Posts: 1,182
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

I would not only follow Charlie Papazian's advice, but I would have TWO homebrews first and then work on a third one while you're brewing!

__________________
McCall St. Brewer is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
new to home brewing sillyburt Introductions 8 10-27-2009 11:16 PM
New to home brewing Snodgrass Introductions 2 10-04-2008 10:39 PM
Home brewing in the UK? HarvInSTL General Beer Discussion 21 06-27-2008 06:21 PM
New to Home Brewing BakerB77 Introductions 3 08-13-2007 02:00 AM
New to Home brewing Treekiller Introductions 9 01-10-2006 09:58 PM



Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS