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STAD 09-19-2008 07:00 PM

Not trying to sound arrogant but...
 
Okay so hopefully the thread title caught some attention. Haha! It's not really a matter of arrogance, it's more likely possible ignorance. Okay, so let me just start by saying where I am in this whole beer brewing mess. I have only brewed one batch and it's not even done yet. So basically, I'm a complete n00b. My overall goal is to start making my own recipes or tweaking the popular all-grain recipes. The brew I am working on is a step-by-step extract kit. At first glance, all-grain brewing was like another language. But after LOTS of reading and question asking, I feel like I have a pretty good grip on it. My question is simply this: Can I make the jump to all-grain after only ONE batch of extract? I don't want to say that it seems easy, but maybe not as intimidating as I once thought. Tell me what you think.

Thank,

Ryan

McKBrew 09-19-2008 07:03 PM

It is nowhere near as intimidating as you think. Two things kept me from going AG sooner. Cost, which I found out wasn't really that much for the basics and the fear that it would be too hard. It's not. I say go for it.

AZ_IPA 09-19-2008 07:06 PM

Ryan,

find some posts by Revvy. He's written some interesting stuff about the Extract v. AG.

It's kinda like bait fishing versus fly-fishing. Certain fly-fisherman (AG) snub bait fisherman (extract) as inferior; yet, the goal is the same -- catch fish (make beer).

and, like most folks on here will say - this hobby is all about making good beer, no matter what your technique is.

The hardest part I had with my first AG batch (and happened to be 1st full boil batch) was avoiding boil-over (it's a lot trickier with 6.5 gallons of wort v. the 3 I'd use for extract), and the extra time to chill the wort.

good luck! :mug:

hammacks 09-19-2008 07:07 PM

Is more nerve racking than difficult the first time. Kinda like sex...

But if you've read enough to have a good grasp of what your trying to accomplish go for it. Make sure you can measure your runnings volume and have a good thermometer.

carnevoodoo 09-19-2008 07:09 PM

I think I did 4 batches before I went all grain. I'd say go for it.

STAD 09-19-2008 07:12 PM

Haha, sounds good guys. Thanks for the encouragement! So now it comes to the equipment, which seems pricey. I see a lot of people make their own MLT and just keep a big pot of boiling water going for the HLT. Is this doable?

zacster 09-19-2008 07:16 PM

My hesitation is still the time involved more than the difficulty. It already takes at least 2.5 hours from when I first fill the pot to boil till I've put the wort in the fermenter and clean up, and I have the process down pat at this point.

carnevoodoo 09-19-2008 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsolstad (Post 858845)
Haha, sounds good guys. Thanks for the encouragement! So now it comes to the equipment, which seems pricey. I see a lot of people make their own MLT and just keep a big pot of boiling water going for the HLT. Is this doable?

you need a big pot for full boils. I just use a pot for my HLT and my MLT is a cooler.

it does get pricy, but it is totally fun. You might even want to do a second extract batch while waiting to get everything together.

rob897 09-19-2008 07:23 PM

Go AG... I did 1 extract and wanted to have more control on what my recipes would be like. Immediately after my 1st extract I started building my MLT, Keggle and Kegerator.
I have only done 3 AG batches and they all turned out ok even for still being a NOOB... I would start watching some online videos from YouTube as those really give you a better understanding of what to do... I would recommend the Chris Knight series, I believe theres 8 videos for his AG.. .and he has additional videos for Kegging..

Cheers

Alamo_Beer 09-19-2008 07:24 PM

Sure ya can! It doesn't take much extra equipment and once you get used to it time isn't all that bad either. I can knock out a brew in 4hrs. The only difference between AG and extract is the mash.....which is basicly just letting the grain rest at a desired temp for an hour. After that it's just like a full boil extract.


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