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Old 02-10-2014, 05:28 PM   #31
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You're probably thinking of that TakeSomeAdvice nutjob. He was a trouble making member here a while back.

Here's the first of many videos that got big around here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WQhwSxEFbE
I think that the next time I have a friend over to watch a brew session for the first time, I'm going to wear the gloves, mask and safety goggles, just to freak him out - during the mash, no less.

Oh, and I'll make him put on the same equipment. Should be a laugh!

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Old 02-10-2014, 05:48 PM   #32
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You're probably thinking of that TakeSomeAdvice nutjob. He was a trouble making member here a while back.

Here's the first of many videos that got big around here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WQhwSxEFbE
I like this one. If I saw this before I started brewing I would have never started.

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Old 02-10-2014, 05:55 PM   #33
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I think that the next time I have a friend over to watch a brew session for the first time, I'm going to wear the gloves, mask and safety goggles, just to freak him out - during the mash, no less.

Oh, and I'll make him put on the same equipment. Should be a laugh!
Don't take any unnecessary risks like that. Break out the Hazmat suits. Oh, and don't forget to lotion up first!

That guy's channel is full of crazy videos. He's also gone by the handle AngryCanuck and a few others. His brewing videos are hilarious, beer reviews are worse, but he has a few where he denies the Holocaust happened. I suppose it's all worth checking out if you want a good laugh or two (Holocaust videos being the scary exception). The guy is either a very good actor or a very unusual combination of stupid and crazy.
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Old 02-14-2014, 05:40 PM   #34
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The carbon dioxide liner thing in 2 is nonsense. Despite being more dense than oxygen, you cannot create a protective "cap" with carbon dioxide in a homebrewing vessel on a bottling timescale. The CO2 will quickly form a homogeneous mixture with the air.
Saying this is "nonsense" is naive. Heavy and light gases are based on their molecular weight. You can compare gases on the "Periodic Table" found anywhere online or books. In addition, using gas to cap beer is a common practice in both commercial and homebrewing. However, if you have something that can prove me wrong (e.g., study of O2 vs. CO2 and how they separate or combine), I would be very interested in your argument.


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Saying this is "nonsense" is naive. Heavy and light gases are based on their molecular weight. You can compare gases on the "Periodic Table" found anywhere online or books. In addition, using gas to cap beer is a common practice in both commercial and homebrewing. However, if you have something that can prove me wrong (e.g., study of O2 vs. CO2 and how they separate or combine), I would be very interested in your argument.


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Dude, quit picking the scab. Just let it die...

But since you brought it up, I'd love to see a study of homebrew comparisons done with those bottled/kegged under a layer of CO2 and those without. I doubt you're getting much benefit from it. Also, the CO2 will only stay in a layer on top of the beer assuming the environment is perfectly still. Even a small movement in the air could disrupt this layer. If you disagree, show me the study.

See what I did there? Using your own tactic, I turned the tables on you, making your argument invalid. BURN! Your move maestro, your move.
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Dude, quit picking the scab. Just let it die...

But since you brought it up, I'd love to see a study of homebrew comparisons done with those bottled/kegged under a layer of CO2 and those without. I doubt you're getting much benefit from it. Also, the CO2 will only stay in a layer on top of the beer assuming the environment is perfectly still. Even a small movement in the air could disrupt this layer. If you disagree, show me the study.

See what I did there? Using your own tactic, I turned the tables on you, making your argument invalid. BURN! Your move maestro, your move.
Laughing, your right about a still environment. However, CO2 has an element weight of 44 because of the heavy carbon atom, while Oxygen has an element weight of 14 making Oxygen much lighter. That's why it is used to cap beer by commercial breweries.

Regarding letting it die, you apparently want to give up too easily. I think there is some good and some not so good advice given. The best part is that I can go back to edit and clean it up.


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After consideration of some of the advice given, I have gone back and edited the original posting. Hopefully for the better. Except for the outright mean comments and those that would suggest that I give up, I would like to thank everyone else for the comedy and your helpful suggestions.


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After consideration of some of the advice given, I have gone back and edited the original posting. Hopefully for the better. Except for the outright mean comments and those that would suggest that I give up (The Zymurgist), I would like to thank everyone else for the comedy and your helpful suggestions.


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Not sure why you singled me out when there were plenty of others taking issue with the "information" you were spreading, but I'll bite. I commend you for going back and revising your post. That shows you were actually listening to the responses, regardless of how they were communicated. Too few people are able to do that these days. I never suggested you give up, I just didn't understand why you were resurrecting a post that people were taking issues with.

That said, I do take issue with some of the information still in the post. I won't go into them, for the sake of civil discourse, and since many of these topics have been addressed countless times on this, and many other platforms. I understand you're trying to be short and provide general information to new brewers, but be careful when generality causes the quality of information to suffer. As a tax accountant, I would never say something like "The IRS provides a tax credit against earned income!" This is a very limited credit specific to certain situations, and more information is obviously required.
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Well said Zymurgist. I know the post is simple. I'm not writing a book. These are the items I found to be most important to my brewing experience. I know there are many other things that cause off flavors, but don't want to overwhelm the reader. Regarding singling you out: Your past attacks were not helpful. I don't mind criticism, I've been through tough environments, and it helps build a better post. However, calling a post a "train wreck" or referring to as a sore with a scab and saying I should quit is uncalled for. However, I can see your more reasonable than I previously thought. And for that, thank you. Getting kickback from a post is nothing compared to getting beat up and fighting back at the Sr. Corporate level of a nationwide Bank. Either way, now that we've chatted, and I got to say my peace, I'll let it go and edit my comment.


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New to brewing and to me I appreciate the help and the insights. I would like to get to the point where I can "taste" the small mistakes I made. But right now I'm enjoying the process and trying to get it correctly more often than not. So thanks..

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