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Old 11-29-2012, 03:53 AM   #21
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Wow, thanks for all of the links. Now here come some more questions. I do not homebrew myself so these might have obvious answers to most people but not I. The Bayou Classic SS pot, can you brew in it as is or do you need to have the additions like a spigot? As for the burner, can you brew inside on a regular gas stovetop or must you use a separate burner? And if you use a separate burner, can it be hooked up to a gas line? Our grill has an outdoor hookup to our gasline so maybe I could tap into that. And the copper coil immersion Chiller, I beleive the one I can buy used is a 20' copper coil. Is the 50' better or does it make much difference on a 5 gal batch? Thanks for all your help!

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It would help to know where the OP (rickert76) is actually located. I'm sure there's some of us in the same area that could give assistance. I'd even volunteer time and tools to install a ball valve into whatever she got for a pot (to make it a kettle). She'll need to provide the parts, or buy replacements if I use from my own supply.

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It would help to know where the OP (rickert76) is actually located. I'm sure there's some of us in the same area that could give assistance. I'd even volunteer time and tools to install a ball valve into whatever she got for a pot (to make it a kettle). She'll need to provide the parts, or buy replacements if I use from my own supply.
I am in the St Louis area, just across the river in IL actually.
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I am in the St Louis area, just across the river in IL actually.
Well that rules me out.
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I would say that Blichmann is good but overpriced. I would stick to a 10 Gallon SS pot, I like the thicker walled ones like the Megapot from Northern Brewer, I would get one with a ball valve at least.
http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/b...ewmometer.html


I make due with a chiller, 10 gallon pot and my homemade 5 gallon mashtun. Keeping it cheap is a big deal for me but getting a nice 10 gallon pot and 10 gallon mashtun will allow for some growth and easy sparging. I know because I have a 5 gallon mashtun and it can only hold about 13lbs of grain so brewing beers with bigger grain bills is hard.
I just checked this out on the Northern brewer site. It had pretty good reviews but I am not sure what I am looking at. If I still have to buy a wort chiller and SS brew pot, is this just a nice Mash tun? I apologize for not knowing more about brewing. I am trying to teach myself everything there is to know in a few days in order to buy what i need. Pretty sad attempt. This is my understanding so far. For a 5 gal batch, I need a 10 gal SS pot which can be plain or fancy like a Blichmann. I need a mash tun which I can make for a reasonable price with a 10 gal cooler and I need an immersion wort chiller that can be purchased or made using soft copper coil. What am I missing?
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Regarding the burner, to do all-grain full boils, he'll need a propane burner (unless you go electric). I have the blichmann burner with leg extensions and I really like it. It's well built, quiet, and efficient. IMO, it's a great burner. It's pricey, but to me, it's worth the extra money.

I'm going to add my two cents, please don't take this the wrong way. First, I think it's awesome that you're trying to get your husband home brew gear for Christmas and even asking questions on a home brew forum, very cool. Would it be a bad thing to let him spend your home brew budget as he sees fit? Home brew equipment is very personal, I feel like it's something the brewer needs to select themselves. Sorry if that's a let down, just the way I feel. It sounds like your husband needs a wort chiller, a pot, a burner, and a mash tun all at the same time. That tends to happen when going to all-grain. Either way, good luck.

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Regarding the burner, to do all-grain full boils, he'll need a propane burner (unless you go electric). I have the blichmann burner with leg extensions and I really like it. It's well built, quiet, and efficient. IMO, it's a great burner. It's pricey, but to me, it's worth the extra money.

I'm going to add my two cents please don't take this the wrong way. First, I think it's awesome that you're trying to get your husband homebrew gear for Christmas and even asking questions on a homebrew forum, very cool. Would it be a bad thing to let him spend your homebrew budget as he sees fit? Homebrew equipment is very personal, I feel like it's something the brewer needs to select themselves. Sorry if that's a let down, just the way I feel. It sounds like your husband needs a wort chiller, a pot, a burner, and a mash tun all at the same time. That tends to happen when going to all-grain. Either way, good luck.
I'm going to agree with that... I have two of the Blichmann burners (one with the longer legs) and love them. I had a Bayou KAB4, which didn't perform nearly as well. That's with NO modifications done to either burner.

I still think you should look into BIAB as a way to get his all grain brewing 'feet wet'. Investment is minimal (no need to make a cooler mash tun) and you can do rather well with it. I upgraded to a mash tun due to where I was living and not being able to pull the grain bag out of the kettle (no additional supports there). There are ways to get a moderate OG brew (or maybe even above) with BIAB, depending on how strong he is. Or if he can rig up some mechanical assistance for it. Then, once he's ready, you can get the mash tun (next year's holiday gift, or maybe his b-day)...

Personally, I really like making my own gear, where possible. Converting kegs into keggles and mash tuns is part of the fun. Knowing I have a 100% customized solution to the hardware is also a great feeling.
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Regarding the burner, to do all-grain full boils, he'll need a propane burner (unless you go electric). I have the blichmann burner with leg extensions and I really like it. It's well built, quiet, and efficient. IMO, it's a great burner. It's pricey, but to me, it's worth the extra money.

I'm going to add my two cents, please don't take this the wrong way. First, I think it's awesome that you're trying to get your husband homebrew gear for Christmas and even asking questions on a homebrew forum, very cool. Would it be a bad thing to let him spend your homebrew budget as he sees fit? Homebrew equipment is very personal, I feel like it's something the brewer needs to select themselves. Sorry if that's a let down, just the way I feel. It sounds like your husband needs a wort chiller, a pot, a burner, and a mash tun all at the same time. That tends to happen when going to all-grain. Either way, good luck.
Thanks for the info on the burner. I will look into it. And yes, it would seem like the best idea to just give him a budget and tell him to buy what he wants/needs but if I know my husband, he will become overwhelmed with guilt and buy nothing or, since he is not sure of what he needs either, he will become overwhelmed with stress and that would take all the fun out of it. So really its a lose-lose situation for me That's why I would like to just get him some nice basics that will allow him to start brewing and he can tweak his system as he sees fit as his process develops.
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I'm going to agree with that... I have two of the Blichmann burners (one with the longer legs) and love them. I had a Bayou KAB4, which didn't perform nearly as well. That's with NO modifications done to either burner.

I still think you should look into BIAB as a way to get his all grain brewing 'feet wet'. Investment is minimal (no need to make a cooler mash tun) and you can do rather well with it. I upgraded to a mash tun due to where I was living and not being able to pull the grain bag out of the kettle (no additional supports there). There are ways to get a moderate OG brew (or maybe even above) with BIAB, depending on how strong he is. Or if he can rig up some mechanical assistance for it. Then, once he's ready, you can get the mash tun (next year's holiday gift, or maybe his b-day)...

Personally, I really like making my own gear, where possible. Converting kegs into keggles and mash tuns is part of the fun. Knowing I have a 100% customized solution to the hardware is also a great feeling.
Well he already bought a cooler 6 mo ago in hopes of doing all grain so at this point I would only need to pay for the parts to convert it which shouldn't be too bad. Perhaps I could just buy him the parts and let him do it so he can enjoy that process. And in the mean time he can try the BIAB.
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