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Old 05-18-2011, 10:35 PM   #11
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To those who've attempted this clone, did your attempts have the biscuit character that the Green Line has from 2 row only? I was going to try this over the summer, but with a handful of biscuit or victory malt.
Both of my batches did not have the biscuit flavor. In reading the GI website they mentioned that they only used pale malt which I interpreted (perhaps incorrectly) that they only used 2-row which is what I did. The flavor wasn't to my liking let alone similar to green line. Not to mention that I can't figure out the hop schedule which is what I think is going to make or break this clone. Another important thing I should mention is that the last time I tried green line about a month or two ago it didn't seem to taste the way I remembered it the first few times I tried it. Maybe it was just me I don't know.
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Old 05-19-2011, 01:46 PM   #12
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I think that I came kind of close by using only 10 pounds of Gambrinus Pale Ale Malt. I really enjoyed the clone that I made of this beer. While not 100% spot on to Green Line I would say that I got 90% of the way there. Its by far my favorite beer that I have made so far.

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Old 05-31-2011, 09:12 PM   #13
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I brewed the recipe below yesterday. I'll let you know how it turned out in about 5 weeks after it's carbed up. I just read something about Amarillo and Simcoe being the two aroma hops, so next time I might put them in at 10min or flame out and push the Columbus back to 15 minutes. I want to try a little dry hop, but I will probably leave it as is this time to get a base and tweak from.

10 lb 2 Row - Briess
.5 lb Biscuit
.25 lb Carapils

.5 oz Hallertau (45 min) - I didn't have Liberty on hand
1 oz Simcoe (15 min)
.5 oz Columbus (10 min)
1 oz Amarillo (10 min)

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Old 11-23-2011, 01:02 AM   #14
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I want to resurrect this thread as I plan on trying to clone Green Line with my next batch. Bourgeoisbee, how did yours turn out? Same to you Sean0301, I want to know your exact recipe to see if I can try to get it even closer to that 100% clone we are all always shooting for!

Unfortunately I am still doing extract batches. I do believe that Goose Island is only using the Pale Ale Malt because with their other beers it lists any specialty malts as well, the Green Line only lists the Pale Malt. I am going to take into consideration Bourgeoisbee's note that they are using the Amarillo and Simcoe as the two aroma hops. As for the Columbus, I read in a Hop Guide that these are excellent for dry hopping so that is all I am going to use them for. As for the Liberty, I am going to use it as the bittering hop because of the low Alpha Acid %. I have a pretty crazy hop schedule but that's just me trying to get as close as I can to the IBU count while trying to make sure that the Amarillo stands out most (I always noticed the flowery aroma first when drinking Green Line, and this was the only hop where I saw that in the description.) Let me know what you guys think.

Est Original Gravity: 1.050 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.012 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.0 %
Bitterness: 30.3 IBUs
Est Color: 7.0 SRM

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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
4.0 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 3.7 %
2 lbs Light Dry Extract [Boil for 60 min](8.0 Dry Extract 2 29.6 %
0.50 oz Liberty [4.30 %] - Boil 45.0 min Hop 3 4.8 IBUs
4 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Liquid Extract [Boil for 15 min](8. Extract 4 66.7 %
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 5 4.7 IBUs
0.25 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 6 3.9 IBUs
0.75 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 7 4.7 IBUs
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 8 2.1 IBUs
1.0 pkg American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 Yeast 9 -
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Primary 3.0 days) Other 10 -
0.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Dry Hop Hop 11 0.0 IBUs

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Old 11-23-2011, 01:53 AM   #15
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My version turned out great, but wasn't cloned. I was the most off on it needing more biscuit flavor and aroma. I think using Pale Malt instead of 2 Row would help, but I'd steep some biscuit too. I didn't dry hop since I was concerned about not masking the malt and kettle hops to try to see if on attempt one I cloned the base of the recipe, but my version would have been closer if I had dry hopped. Your recipe looks like a step in the right direction from my attempt. I might dry hop with a little Simcoe too, but be sure it's not a batch that has the cat piss aroma to it - you can smell it in the hop pellets. I'm curious to hear about your results; it looks great.

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Old 11-23-2011, 04:57 AM   #16
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Great, thanks for the info. I've never used the biscuit malt before, how much would you recommend? 4oz, 8oz, full 1lb.? I appreciate it.

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Old 11-23-2011, 12:19 PM   #17
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has anyone asked them? tell them you are a homebrewer, give them your best shot at their recipe. i've done it twice, with Yard's in Philly and Brooklyn Brewery. They were both extremely helpful. Unless you just like figuring it out on your own.

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Old 11-23-2011, 03:22 PM   #18
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Akimbo, I may just go and do that this weekend if I am able to stop by. I have thought about it but part of the fun is trying to do it on your own, just like you said. Makes you feel damn good if you nail it!!

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Old 11-29-2011, 03:35 PM   #19
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Any updates on this? Just had Green Line at PJ Clarke's last night - I'm hooked, it was delicous. I'd love to brew something similar - my family would love it.

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Old 11-29-2011, 04:54 PM   #20
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I just saw your question about how much Biscuit Malt to use. I would try 8oz. That wasn't enough when I used 2 Row as my base malt, but I think would be a good start if you're going to use Pale Malt/Extract.

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