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Old 04-08-2013, 05:15 PM   #1
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Hey guys,

I bought the Festa Brew Wheat kit the other day, which is 23 Litres of pre made all grain wort. The instructions say to do a 5 day primary AT MAX.

Even as a new brewer this seems odd to me, and does not fit with everything I read on these forums.

I asked at my LHBS and the employee gave me the same response as the instructions, and said if I leave it in the primary for longer than five days I seriously risk ruining the batch of beer.

Am I crazy for thinking that is a load of ****?

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Old 04-08-2013, 05:18 PM   #2
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I primary for 3 weeks than go straight to bottles, and my beer tastes great. There is a huge debate over the necessity of racking into a secondary. I think racking off after 5 days is too fast in any case

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Old 04-08-2013, 05:18 PM   #3
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Are these special yeasties or something?

Suggestion: try a new LHBS.

Also just to ease my curiosity, what are the ingredients to the kit and what type of yeast did they give ya?

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Leaving it in primary is not going to ruin your beer. For a wheat beer, which are best when consumed fresh, a 14 day primary (give or take) would be about right, assuming that FG has been reached.

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Old 04-08-2013, 05:21 PM   #5
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No, you aren't crazy at all. The only way to know when the primary fermentation is done is by taking gravity readings with a hydrometer. When they're the same for 2-3 days in a row, it's done. Even then, it won't hurt the beer to sit on the yeast for another week or two to clean up any fusel alcohols created during the initial fermentation.

Can you bottle it after five days? Probably, but if the fermentation hasn't finished yet, you'll run the risk of creating bottle bombs or just having a "Green" tasting beer for a few weeks or more. The more experience you get when brewing, the easier it becomes to just let the beer run it's course for 3-4 weeks in the primary.

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I am at work right now but when I get home I will post the ingredients and the yeast. I knew in my head that this guy was wrong, but figured I might as well ask since I had never done a wheat beer.

The owner of this store is a great guy and extremely helpful, but it seems like his employees either dont know or dont care enough to give you decent advice.

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I believe it is Revvy that I always see preach the 1 week primary-2 week secondary -3 week bottle rule, which is what I was going to follow. But this guy at the store just kept saying no way a week is too long in primary!

I guess I should thank the Government of Canada ads that taught me in the 90's to not believe everything I see/hear!

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Yeast: Safale S-04

Just looked it up online, this is what comes with the kit. ^^

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short of hitting the autolysis point, which is a very long time on the yeast cake, extended times in primary won't hurt. if anything it'll give the yeast a chance to clean up the beer. Time is almost always on the side of the brewer, so for them to say u run the risk of ruining it, in my mind it sends up a flag.

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It all seemed wrong as soon as I heard it, but I figured I would be stupid not to at least investigate seeing as I only have 3 batches under my belt.

Thanks for the help!

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