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Old 03-01-2013, 12:03 AM   #1
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Default My beer is dying! Oh, the horror!.... The agonizing horror!

I bottled my first batch (a stout with added cocoa powder and bakers chocolate) about four days ago. At that time, my beer tasted fairly decent. Nothing special, but some interesting flavor profiles brought about by the vanilla powder, and spice potion (cinnamon, ginger and clove disolved in vodka) added to the bottling bucket.

Now, four days later, I just opened my first bottle because I couldn't wait to see how things are developing. I was disconcerted to find the following:

1.) beer has no head
2.) beer now tastes like an unblended, unbalanced mess of different variants of harsh chemicals that leave a cloying aftertaste.

My hope is that these taste will mellow and blend into a more balanced brew as carbing finishes and the beer ages and matures. I'm also hoping the lack of head is because carbing has only been underway for four days.


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Old 03-01-2013, 12:04 AM   #2
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Default Beer smells good, but taste baaaad!

I bottled my first batch (a stout with added cocoa powder and bakers chocolate) about four days ago. At that time, my beer tasted fairly decent. Nothing special, but some interesting flavor profiles brought about by the vanilla powder, and spice potion (cinnamon, ginger and clove disolved in vodka) added to the bottling bucket.

Now, four days later, I just opened my first bottle because I couldn't wait to see how things are developing. I was disconcerted to find the following:

1.) beer has no head
2.) beer now tastes like an unblended, unbalanced mess of different variants of harsh chemicals that leave a cloying aftertaste.

My hope is that these taste will mellow and blend into a more balanced brew as carbing finishes and the beer ages and matures. I'm also hoping the lack of head is because carbing has only been underway for four days.


Thanks my brothers of brew.
Cheers.

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Old 03-01-2013, 12:10 AM   #3
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4 days is relatively short.
Same thing happened with my last brew, an Irish Red. I popped one open after 2 weeks and it tasted like chemicals, maybe Star San?, so I let it sit for 2 more weeks. Gotta try one again tonight.

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Let your stout sit for two more months and then judge the flavor.

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Old 03-01-2013, 12:14 AM   #5
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4 days is not nearly enough time. Tell us more about this beer. OG/FG, yeast, water, temps, process?

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Its your first batch. I had to navigate through a minefield of exploding bottles with my first batch. Funny enough it was a stout with cocoa powder, bakers chocolate and coffee!

Anyways, you bottled 4 days ago. It isn't carbonated yet and wont be for at least another 2 weeks. It doesn't have head because there is no carbonation at this point.

Hopefully some of the flavors will mellow out, but harsh chemical flavors don't tend to mellow very well. What was your recipe, process, etc? Did you make sure you used a source of water that had no chlorine/chloramines in it? Chlorinated water = instant chemical beer. What temperature did you pitch the yeast at? How much yeast? How about fermentation temperatures? Were they low 60's or mid 70's? higher temperatures will lead to hot alcohol flavors, and not treating the yeast right can lead to a whole bunch of off flavors.

Don't be discouraged though, ask questions, read up on how to have a healthy fermentation, and start planning that next batch. Brewing isn't a tough thing, but it would be a lie if somebody told you there wasn't a steep learning curve to brewing great beer. This site will help you a lot and a year or two from now you'll look back on this batch and smile.

I recommend tried and true, simpler recipes to start learning with, just to save a bit of money and headaches wondering if flavors that aren't quite right are recipe related. Most of your success in brewing will come from your process and until you get that down perfectly, your beers won't come out tasting like they could fly off store shelves. Check out the recipe section here (if you haven't already). There are a ton of great ones in there!

And try another bottle in 2-3 weeks. It will taste a lot different from the one you just tried and could be pretty good.

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Old 03-01-2013, 12:22 AM   #7
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4 days is not nearly enough time. Tell us more about this beer. OG/FG, yeast, water, temps, process?
Extract kit that arrived with the LME leaking. Compensated by upping molasses from 1/4 to 3/4 cup. Added unsweetened cocoa powder to the boil, along with semi-sweet bakers chocolate. Used Crystal Springs water bottled by the gallon. I used dry yeast which I did mistakenly pitch at far too high of a temp. Fermented heavily for one day and then stopped. sat in primary for just under two weeks and secondary for an additional two. I didn't check OG but FG read at 1.022 approximately. I do not know what that translates into in terms of ABV. I disolved vanilla powder with priming sugar and then added to bottling bucket with spice potion.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:28 AM   #8
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Its your first batch. I had to navigate through a minefield of exploding bottles with my first batch. Funny enough it was a stout with cocoa powder, bakers chocolate and coffee!

Anyways, you bottled 4 days ago. It isn't carbonated yet and wont be for at least another 2 weeks. It doesn't have head because there is no carbonation at this point.

Hopefully some of the flavors will mellow out, but harsh chemical flavors don't tend to mellow very well. What was your recipe, process, etc? Did you make sure you used a source of water that had no chlorine/chloramines in it? Chlorinated water = instant chemical beer. What temperature did you pitch the yeast at? How much yeast? How about fermentation temperatures? Were they low 60's or mid 70's? higher temperatures will lead to hot alcohol flavors, and not treating the yeast right can lead to a whole bunch of off flavors.

Don't be discouraged though, ask questions, read up on how to have a healthy fermentation, and start planning that next batch. Brewing isn't a tough thing, but it would be a lie if somebody told you there wasn't a steep learning curve to brewing great beer. This site will help you a lot and a year or two from now you'll look back on this batch and smile.

I recommend tried and true, simpler recipes to start learning with, just to save a bit of money and headaches wondering if flavors that aren't quite right are recipe related. Most of your success in brewing will come from your process and until you get that down perfectly, your beers won't come out tasting like they could fly off store shelves. Check out the recipe section here (if you haven't already). There are a ton of great ones in there!

And try another bottle in 2-3 weeks. It will taste a lot different from the one you just tried and could be pretty good.
Extract kit that arrived with the LME leaking. Compensated by upping molasses from 1/4 to 3/4 cup. Added unsweetened cocoa powder to the boil, along with semi-sweet bakers chocolate. Used Crystal Springs water bottled by the gallon. I used dry yeast which I did mistakenly pitch at far too high of a temp. Fermented heavily for one day and then stopped. sat in primary for just under two weeks and secondary for an additional two. I didn't check OG but FG read at 1.022 approximately. I do not know what that translates into in terms of ABV. I disolved vanilla powder with priming sugar and then added to bottling bucket with spice potion. Fermented at about 70 - 72 F

I have 10 more gallons waiting to be bottled. I jumped in with two feet, so I have learned a good bit.
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Only thing I can say man, and I know you know what brewing is about even know it's your first batch, but never add additional spices and such things to a kit. Adding more hops is one thing, but adding additional crazy sht on your first brew is asking for trouble. I bet it's all that crapola you added that makes it taste like dump. Brew another trying not to be creative and see what happens. Good luck broham.

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Old 03-01-2013, 12:39 AM   #10
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Stop. Go do something else. For at least 3 more weeks and preferably longer. Don't look at your beer, don't wonder about it, don't touch it, don't google over it and imagine what it tastes like. Just leave it alone in a nice, room temperature location...for at LEAST three weeks.

If it doesn't develop over three weeks, repeat the process above.

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