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Enoch52 02-04-2013 08:54 PM

Multiple SMaSH IPA batches to learn hops
I'm thinking of using multiple small (1-gal) batches of SMaH IPA's (IPA primarily because it will emphasize the hops, but also because I love IPA's) to learn about various hops varieties.

I'm planning on using 2 lbs of Munton Light DME per batch because they've confirmed it's a single-malt extract. Is that too much? I'm planning around a single ounce of hops per batch (since they're generally packaged that way), though I may adjust based on AA%.

Any suggestions on what hops to try?

frazier 02-04-2013 09:04 PM

Just off the top of my head: Centennial, Amarillo, Chinook, EKG (if you are interested in British IPAs), Simcoe, Citra ... Where do I stop? Galaxy, Cascade, Nelson Sauvin, Sorachi Ace.

If I were ambitious - and I think you are - I'd go the the recipe section, and tabulate the hops used in the top 10 or 15 recipes there. Then try the top 5. Something like that. Keep us posted on the results! I love the scientific approach.

A while back, I toyed with the idea of a similar experiment, but SWASH instead of SMASH - the 'W' being wort. Use a typical IPA grainbill and divide it up. I didn't see the point of limiting myself to a naked grainbill if I was testing hops. But that's just me.


Enoch52 02-04-2013 10:18 PM

Damnit, you out-scientificked me. I was thinking of a somewhat similar approach in deciding what hops to grow--my dad grows Cascade and has offered me enough rhizome to get me started, and I was thinking of finding another common/popular IPA hop to plant as well.

SWaSH would certainly work just as well for testing hops, especially since I'm not switching up the malt at all. But then I couldn't really call the resultant beers "Hulk SMaSH!", could I? Not in good conscience. A line of SWaSHbuckler IPA's could be in the making, though...

dickproenneke 02-04-2013 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by Enoch52 (Post 4864100)

I'm planning on using 2 lbs of Munton Light DME per batch because they've confirmed it's a single-malt extract.

So many hops, such little time :rockin: I wish you luck with your experiment... I'm curious about where you found this information re: Muntons LDME. I was always under the impression that there was a touch of cara even in the lightest extracts.

Enoch52 02-04-2013 10:26 PM

Somewhere on these forums, I think. Most extracts are mixes, but somebody apparently contacted Munton because they thought their LDME was a single malt, and posted a response from them that it was. I'll see if I can find it again.

dickproenneke 02-04-2013 10:37 PM

Thanks. I'd certainly appreciate it. I wish that Muntons just listed their ingredients online like Briess

Enoch52 02-04-2013 11:05 PM

Found it!


braceful 02-05-2013 02:14 AM

I did 7 x 2gallon batches of single hop IPAs. Named them after the 7 Dwarfs. Grain bill was 85% 2 Row, 6% Munich, 5% Crystal 15L, 4% Crystal 45L.

No reason why SMaSH wouldn't work just as well. For me, since I had 14 gallons of IPAs to drink I wanted to make sure they had enough malt complexity to keep me interested.

I did the following hops:

I thought that Summit and Simcoe came out the best - specifically they both had citrus/pine balance that I expect in an IPA. For me, Amarillo and Nugget were a little *weird* - very fruity, almost wine-like. YMMV.

I did identical 20min, 10min, 5min, FO, and dryhop additions and then adjusted the 60 min additions so that all were at the same IBUs. I purposefully chose hops that were all around the same AA% so that I could get the same IBUs without huge differences in the amount of hop matter in the beer (since I thought that could influence how I perceived the hoppiness).

It was a fun experiment that I would recommend to any brewer. Have fun.

Calichusetts 02-05-2013 10:07 AM

I did think for about 8 batches in a row. Not really a smash but a simply pale ale recipe with only late hop additions to bring out the hops. Really a great learning experience. I still do it time to time. I just order a few New Zealand hops and will do it again with each to see how I will use them in my Southern Hemisphere ale

Enoch52 02-05-2013 12:43 PM

From a practical standpoint, how do you handle small (1-gal) batches? One of the reasons I chose an IPA is because I can use a full ounce of hops in a single gallon, and I can vacuum-seal the DME, but what about the yeast? Do you just pitch an envelope of dry yeast in each, or make up a starter and divide it by five and brew every day until you're done, or what?

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