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Old 12-14-2013, 01:48 PM   #11
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+1 on the crush ^
You can ask them to run it through twice

I used to do partial mashes in one or 2 large pots in the oven. It's so easy.

After straining your first runnings, dump the mash back into the pot and add your sparge water. Stir well, let sit a bit, stir again and strain.
I agree with this. Putting the mash into a strainer and trying to pour water over it is not at all the same as fly sparging. You get a lot of channeling since the grain is now damp rather than fluid. After you get all the first wort out of the grain in the strainer, dump the damp grain into the pot where your sparge water is sitting, stir, then return it to the strainer for the last separation.

You could skip the strainer if you put the grain into a mesh bag.
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Old 12-14-2013, 04:03 PM   #12
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I agree with this. Putting the mash into a strainer and trying to pour water over it is not at all the same as fly sparging. You get a lot of channeling since the grain is now damp rather than fluid. After you get all the first wort out of the grain in the strainer, dump the damp grain into the pot where your sparge water is sitting, stir, then return it to the strainer for the last separation. You could skip the strainer if you put the grain into a mesh bag.
I'll give that a shot next time. And is there any way I can crush the grain more myself if I don't have a mill?
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Old 12-14-2013, 11:08 PM   #13
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I think the short answer is no. Not easily at least.
I have never thought of doing a double milling at the LBS. I have to try that.
I have been taking to a friend who has a grain mill (120$). This made my efficiency numbers suddenly go where they should.

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Old 12-20-2013, 07:35 PM   #14
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I can't hit it with a rolling pin once over to help with the crush?

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I don't know enough to say whether using a rolling pin would help.
I bought a 10 pound bag of DME that I keep on hand. When the OG is too low, I put the #s into Brewtoad (free online) and see how much DME I need to add to get up to my OG. I only have to do this sometimes.
I am getting the impression that all grain brewing is an imperfect process that calls for some improvization.

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