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Old 01-30-2013, 07:09 PM   #1
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Do all grains come in liquid or dehydrated form? I brewed a prehopped LME and am not very happy with it. I need to try something different. I don't want to do another style of prehopped LME

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Old 01-30-2013, 07:12 PM   #2
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You mean extract?

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Old 01-30-2013, 07:13 PM   #3
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Extract is what your talking about, they come both Dry and Liquid commonly referred to as DME and LME. Most come un-hopped. The extract is derived from actual grains.

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Some liquids malt extract (lme) comes as hopped liquid malt extract (hme). I'd recommend looking at the ingredients for some of the kits form Midwestsupplies You will see a kit with grains for steeping, then unhopped extract and hops listed.

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Hopped extract should be avoided in my opinion. You have no idea what hops were used or what the IBUs are. It makes is nearly impossible to approximate a certain style. A lot of the hopped extracts tend to sit on the shelves for a while too. DME + specialty grains is the way to go if extract is your preferred method. My suggestion would be to move up to partial mash as soon as possible if all grain isn't in the budget.

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I don't think I'm to the point where I can do partial mash. I guess I was hoping that the "specialty grains" came in extract form.

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ok, specialty grains with extract is what I do. you basically get them in a muslin bag (usually cause I order them from like NB, Austin or Midwest).

And hopefully a muslen bag for the hops. Ok, so you heat some water put the bag of grains in steeping it (like tea) for about 1/2 hour, then boil and put in the malt extract. After that you put in the hops. and boil (hopefuly you can do your hops like tea also). Simple.

As for LME and DME, they come in light, amber, golden and dark. In theory, you could make brews with them and hops, but usually it is grains with Malt extract

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I might also add that you will want to save the bulk of your extract and add it at "flameout". This will help prevent some of the extract twang and make the beer lighter in appearance.

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There are extracts that include specialty malts - for example Briess Sparkling amber DME contains Munich and crystal 60 in addition to the base malt, their dark DME contains munich, crystal 60, and black malt. So you can certainly make different styles with just extract, the problem is you are stuck with the ratio that the maltser put together. If you instead use all light extract and steep your grains like crystal and roasted malts you have more options. You don't have to do partial mash with these types of grains. If you can make tea you can steep grains.

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Well I'm making the jump to steeping grains

8lbs amber LME
1lb dark LME
1lb cara foam (LHBS out of cara pils)
1lb medium crystal 90
1lb 2 row

2/3 oz target for 60
1/2 oz fuggles for 10
1/2 oz fuggles for 5

Safale US-05 dry ale yeast

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