Lodovico

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I'm not really a beignner but this is certainly a beginner question.


Is there a large difference between British Two Row, British Pale Malt and Marris Otter.

In recipes that call for these, can they be substituted without changing the profile of the beer style you are making??

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OLDBREW

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Maris Otter is a specific cutivar. Halcyon, Vulcan, Klagge are among other cultivars and are used for brewers malts

pale malting is the process used on those cultivars

Yes there is a different flavor in the Maris Otter then other pale malts

JKoravos

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Different, yes, but I wouldn't say that there is a large difference.

You can substitute them for any recipe.

mmb

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The important part is how they are malted and kilned. Kilned to British Pale "standards" makes more of a difference than the cultivar, IMO.

I always use Maris Otter because I like that little bit extra it gives and I can get sacks fairly cheap from my LHBS. I know that it has been kilned to "British Pale Ale" standards and I know I'm sourcing UK ingredients. Same could be said for getting Optic, Halcyon, Pearl or Golden Promise. All cultivars...

Briess even uses a domestic 2-row barley and malts that to "British Pale" standard. You're going to taste some difference but it will all make good beer.

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Laughing_Gnome_Invisible

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If the recipe calls for British anything as a base malt, then Maris Otter is the easiest choice unless Golden Promise is specified. After those two you will get lost in the fog until you reach expert status. (I strongly recommend that you read my sig after this advice)

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Lodovico

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Just out of curiosity, how cheap??

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On Draft: Northern German Alt
On Draft: Robust Porter
On Draft: Belgian Pale Ale
In Bottle: Brett Porter
In Bottle: Apfelwein
In Bottle: Espresso Porter
Fermenter: Biere De Garde
Fermenter: Belgian Amber Ale

TexLaw

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I can get a single sack of Crisp Marris Otter for roughly $70 at my LHBS. That's not the best price in the world, but he's very close to my house, and I want him to stay there.


TL

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Grinder12000

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Maris Otter is a little richer with a nutty flavor. Not much but it's there when compared to your normal 2-row.

So you are saying that sounds good but remember - sometimes you don't want a rich, nutty flavor and opt for more of a clean flavor.

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TexLaw

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I find it more bready or biscuity than nutty, similar to Vienna. Yes, it is minor, but if you're talking about 10 pounds or so in a five gallon batch, the difference is significant. It's all a matter of what you want.

If you want a less expensive but very similar substitute, check out the domestic "special pale" malt available. It's kilned more to British pale ale standards, rather than U.S.


TL

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yea - I have to agree. Good catch!!

I'm going to be trying Golden Promise for the 1st time. A Scottish Ale has it in it's recipe so . . .why not!

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