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Old 04-25-2012, 02:15 AM   #1
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Im planning on brewing a dry stout. Here in mexico Im not able to get maris otter, can I add 2row base malt instead? Or is it really necesary to use maris otter?

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Old 04-25-2012, 02:24 AM   #2
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I think subbing a couple lbs of biscuit malt will help match the bready quality of Marris otter malt.

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no biscuit malt either.
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You can use two-row, and maybe try toasting a couple of pounds of it, to sort of emulate maris otter. It won't be the same, but it would still be very good in a stout!

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You can use two-row, and maybe try toasting a couple of pounds of it, to sort of emulate maris otter. It won't be the same, but it would still be very good in a stout!
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I am drinking an English Bitter made with home roasted 2 row right now. I love Maris Otter, but was out and my wallet said it was a bad idea to go to the LHBS. There are some good threads on here regarding roasting 2 row. It is very easy.

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Toast some two row, or if you can get buiscuit,victory.Golden Promise is your best bet if you can get that. Im a fan of brown malt especially in dark beers.There is amber malt too which is basically toasted malt i think. I think they are all different though really so there is no real sub just some similarites that create a different subtle character. If you compared them side by side you probably would see the difference.It may be harder to notice a difference anyway in a stout though maybe. Its the same way as different crystal malts-they have differences. Like carahell compared to crystal 15-20 or something. I think i preferr the belgian crystal malts going by the beers ive tried that have used them.

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Planning a brew marathon with some days off. Didn't plan ahead, and don't have enough Maris otter malt to brew the three beers I want to make.

One is the bass ale clone recipe, the other is a nut brown ale, and the last is an Irish red ale.

I need 33 pounds of Maris otter for all three, but only have ten pounds on hand. I have probably 5 pounds of golden promise, a ton of TF pearl malt, and a couple pounds of biscuit, and victory malt. I also have plenty of us 2 row, Vienna, munich, floor malted pils, and a large selection of specialty malts (including caramunich, melanoiden, some belgian cara 8, etc)

I know it's not going to be exactly like Maris otter. I think that I should take the MO and GP and weigh that, and divide among all three recipes, so there will be real MO in each beer. I'm probably a good 15-18 pounds shy still. Thinking make up the balance with pearl malt and a touch of biscuit malt or victory malt might be a good sub.

Any ideas on how much biscuit or victory is should add per pound of pearl?? Would Vienna be a better choice?

Maybe I nibble on some malt to compare flavors...


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How much pilsner do you have?

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i'd say don't over complicate it - just use the two row. in something like a dry stout, i think it would be difficult to distinguish one base malt from another.

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How much pilsner do you have?

Lots! Probably 15 pounds of the regular pils malt and over 30 of the floor malted


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