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Old 12-13-2010, 02:52 PM   #1
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Default Making my Dry Irish Stout kit a little more stout

Hello all,

I am new to brewing and just started over a little a month ago. I have since become addicted and love reading and learning all there is to know about home brewing.

I am about to brew my second beer which is a dry irish stout that contains the following:

1lbs Simpsons Roasted Barley
6lbs Gold Malt Syrup
2 oz cluster hops
Safale S-04 Ale Yeast

My question is this. I have 3 lbs of Muton's Dry LME, and 3 lbs of Muton's Dark DME. Is there anyway I could add a pound or 2 of one of these to make it more harty without ruining the flavor of this recipe? A friend of mine gave me these, so I want to use them sooner or later, but like I said, I don't want to sacrifice the flavor of the beer to just increase the gravity.

Also, Is there any issue with leaving the hops in the fermentor and not straining it?

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Old 12-13-2010, 03:23 PM   #2
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Every pound of DME you add will boost the ABV by a little under 1%. So, your initial recipe, which by eyeball looks to be about 4.5% alcohol, will jump to 5.4% with an additonal pound of DME.

Can you do this? Yes, you can. Should you? I dunno - personally, I'm not a fan of boosting recipes this way (although I definitely understand the temptation!). My preference would be to find a recipe with the type of "stoutiness" you want, and make that. That way, you have a tried-and-true recipe where the malts and hops are balanced for the ABV you end up with.

But hey, it's your beer - this is why we brew!

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Oh, and as for leaving the hops in the fermenter - this is bound to happen, don't worry about it any more than you need to. I try to leave most of the trub behind in the kettle, but I also want to get all the wort so some gunk always gets in. It just settles to the bottom, no worries.

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I wouldn't do it unless you want to a sweet stout. I also don't think there is enough roasted barley to support it.

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Thank you gentlement. I also have an Irish Red kit that I'm going to make as well and was wondering if I could use any of it for that. I'm really trying to figure out how to utalize using this DMEs that I have.

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I wouldn't do it unless you want to a sweet stout. I also don't think there is enough roasted barley to support it.
I disagree but adding the LME would make it more my style of stout. Reason being, I'm not a dry stout guy. 1 lb of Roasted barley is a lot. Especially for a 4.5% beer, but that's part of what makes it dry. I've used a lb of roasted barley for a 12% RIS and it was plenty. Adding all the LME you have wouldn't make it sweet, it would make it maltier and less dry though. I would do it in a heartbeat, but like I said, thats my personal preference.
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Oh yeah, the reason I said use the LME, is because it doesn't last as long as DME.

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Yeah, the reason I was asking it for the stout that I had was I wanted to make it a little less dry. So if my recipe changes to this, you think my 1 packet of yeast will still be able to handle the fermentation? Also, how long should my Dry Dark Malt Extract last in the vacuum sealed pack? Should I add the extra extract in later in the boil or at the beggining with my liquid malt extract?

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I disagree but adding the LME would make it more my style of stout. Reason being, I'm not a dry stout guy. 1 lb of Roasted barley is a lot. Especially for a 4.5% beer, but that's part of what makes it dry. I've used a lb of roasted barley for a 12% RIS and it was plenty. Adding all the LME you have wouldn't make it sweet, it would make it maltier and less dry though. I would do it in a heartbeat, but like I said, thats my personal preference.


Add some additional LME if that's what you like.


What other roasted grains were in your RIS?

Are you to have me believe 6 more pounds of extract to the original recipe is not going to impact residual sweetness?
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I've brewed that kit......and actually have some bottled. It is simple to make and very good the way it is. If it were me I would leave it alone.

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