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Old 03-01-2012, 03:19 AM   #1
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Default Major Air/Siphon/Bubbles During Bottling?! :(

Hello All,

Just wanted to see what the board thought of the possibility of my pale ale being completely oxidized. Long story short, the majority of the things during the brew process went extremely well until tonight.

Well, during bottling the wand/hose/bucket seemed to get an extreme amount of air in it. I'd fill a few bottles and then the beer would go siphoning back up into the bucket and it would bubble like crazy (almost as hard as if it were boiling). It probably did this about six or seven times So, why do you think this happened and what do you think the chances are that my beer is ruined? How can I prevent this in the future?

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Old 03-01-2012, 03:34 AM   #2
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It's probably just dissolved CO2 in the beer from fermentation. You should be fine.



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Old 03-01-2012, 07:25 AM   #3
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Thanks Anna's Dad... Any other thoughts?

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Old 03-01-2012, 07:57 AM   #4
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I'm confused how this happened. You started a siphon, it sucked back into the fermentation bucket (aka, the siphon didn't hold and failed) and you have bubbles as much as a rolling boil? That sounds excessive, unless you're blowing into the end of the siphon tube I've had this happen before also, but not to the extent you're explaining (if you're not exaggerating).

From my understanding it takes a lot of oxygen to actually ruin a beer if this isn't just C02 bubbling out of solution. The only thing you can do is wait and see what happens, as oxygenated off-flavors appear sometime down the road and wouldn't necessarily be immediately apparent after consuming you're first few brews.

I can't see how you have it set up, but you might want to set the fermentation bucket higher up and use a slightly longer hose so gravity keeps the beer down, thus preventing the suck back or just use a bottling bucket.

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Might be you dont have a good seal between the racking cane and the hose
Or with auto siphon it might be a bad gasket between the tubes

Or are you maybe using a 1/2" siphon that can be seriously hard to get all the air out of?

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Sorry if the post was confusing but I did use a bottling bucket. I had the bucket up on the counter and I was bottling down on the floor. For some reason air was getting caught in the hose and woudnt release any beer in the bottle (just stuck in the hose). Then I would turn off the spigot and the bottling bucket would literally suck air back in and the beer inside would momentarily roll as if it were "boiling." I just want to figure out what went wrong so I can prevent it from happening again in the future

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In the future, why not do it this way - its easy and works well:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f35/bottling-tips-homebrewer-94812/

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You do know there's a vent in the spigot to drain your tubing.



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Did you have the top of the bucket off or at least not sealed? If you are pulling fluid out of the bucket and the top is sealed the oly way for air to get in is through the spigot.

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Closing the spigot will drain the hose of fluid every time
You need a botteling wand so thevalve will be on the other end of the hose



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