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Old 03-30-2005, 06:31 PM   #11
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Ha, i just did a quick calculation, and if 5 gallons should have been 1.050 then it would only take like .08 extra gallons of water at 1.000 to throw the OG down to 1.034.... SO, maybe there is my answer (then again I am a recruiter and math is NOT my strong suit)

Thanks for the Problem solving help!!!

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Scratch that whole calculation... WAY OFF!!
I would have to over fill the carboy by 2.35 gallons to get my OG...
Yikes... my carboy isn't THAT big..
So, i still don't know why??
Oh well, I will just keep making the sauce... it tastes great regardless.
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Old 03-30-2005, 06:39 PM   #12
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Seriously...the stratification issue that D-brewmeister so eloquently explained is a real possibility. I think you have a combination of bery real possibilities as to why this happened...temp, watering down, stratified sample...

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I use this site whenever I want to adjust the gravity readings to the actual temperature during the reading.

http://hbd.org/cgi-bin/recipator/rec...ydrometer.html

Simple and gets me close enough and I don't have to look for that darn chart that came with the hydrometer...

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Old 03-30-2005, 07:08 PM   #14
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Thanks for alllll the help fella's (and ladies if that is the case)
Heck, in the end I could just have a clunker of a hydrometer tooo! ha.

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I use this site whenever I want to adjust the gravity readings to the actual temperature during the reading.

http://hbd.org/cgi-bin/recipator/rec...ydrometer.html

Simple and gets me close enough and I don't have to look for that darn chart that came with the hydrometer...
That site comes up with about what I have calculated... So at least I know my calcs weren't way off..
thanks for the help.
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Old 03-30-2005, 08:27 PM   #16
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That site comes up with about what I have calculated... So at least I know my calcs weren't way off..
thanks for the help.
eh, don't sweat it. as long as it tatses good and it gives you a buzz, you know it's got enough, right? i never used my hydrometer until i started my all-grain brewing. once i do some more batches, i'll probably stop worry about those too. i just wanted to know for the pure "beer-geek" knowledge
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Old 03-30-2005, 09:16 PM   #17
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"5 gallon" carboys definitely hold more than 5 gallons. I *think* it's 5 gallons to the place where the vertical walls bend to form the neck, but I'm not positive.
I believe that's correct, as I transfer 5 gallons from my plastic primary to my 5gal carboy for secondary. Generally the top of the beer is maybe 1/4" below where the walls begin to taper upwards.

Buddah, as you said, I don't think that's enough to effect your readings dramatically, but it's a contributing factor, as well as the "stratification" issue.

As an aside, I had the same problem with my first two batched.....OG's were too low. I broke that hydrometer, and since I've had the new one my OG's have been right where I estimate they should be. So who knows.

I think gravity readings definitely have their place, and I think it's something those of us who are new to brewing should learn a little about. It serves to inform you of many the factors at play when brewing beer. But in the end if you're happy with your results, then to hell with the hydrometer and enjoy! I'm not anal about my readings, but I do take them sometimes to make sure my beer is about where I think they should be.

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I agree with all the previous comments. Sounds like too much water added.

I've been adding an extra gallon of water (on purpose) to my 5 gal batches just as an experiment to get them a bit thinner (relative) than the style dictates. Many of them have come out just great tasting.

Next I'll lower that to just 1/2 gal. I usually lose that much by sampling and transferring. In the end I should have 5 gals to bottle/keg.

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I like using my hydrometer, I just do overdo it. I draw off a sample, pop it in the fridge, use an instant read thermometer and wait until it reads 60 degrees, then do my reading. I only take three readings - after brewing (before pitching yeast), transfering to secondary and at bottling. Other than that, I'm a bubble counter.

Another thing I did early on - and I'm glad I did it - is to fill my fermenter with a measured five gallons of water and mark the 'fill line' with a permanent marker. I never have to guess what 5-gallons is.

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Old 04-04-2005, 02:56 PM   #20
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Hey, thanks everyone for all the responses...
I brewed my third batch on Friday.. It was an "American Lite" recipe I found, had some rice syrup solids etc... SO, now my fiancee will drink some of it... She only likes the lite stuff (frankly, If I keep her interested in this hobby then I can justify continuing to spend money on it ) But any way.. I went out a purchased a 6.5 gallon glass carboy, I measured out 5 gallons and (like was stated above) marked off the 5 gallon spot. The blow off tube is now almost unessecary, OH, and the OG, was 1.050... SO the combo of the right amount of water.... and a bigger jug (was able to shake the hell out of it before takin the sample ) probably was all I needed. SO, now i will be checking out the cider section of this site, and Will probably be starting a batch of that later this week!

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