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Old 11-02-2012, 09:21 AM   #31
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:44 AM   #32
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Is there any independent testing or research that doesn't come from either the product manufacturer (who has a vested interest in selling more product whether it's necessary or not) or from non scientific experiential evidence of hobbyists?
In the absence of any independent testing, I'd be inclined to lean in favour of my own experience until I am presented with evidence to suggest that this approach is wrong.

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Old 11-02-2012, 01:34 PM   #33
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WOW, this is good to know!! I usually mix up a new batch of sanitizer for every batch I brew.
Specially for when I'm cleaning out my bottles. I'm guessing that this is overkill? "I'm talking about the pink stuff"

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Old 11-02-2012, 01:53 PM   #34
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:59 PM   #35
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There should be! Start one now if you want to be father to a massive and controversial thread! You can add sparging above 170, sugar makes beer cidery, and higher OG beers take longer to carbonate just for the fact that they are higher OG
Also add aluminum kettles are worse than stainless steel, fly sparging works better than batch, liquid yeast needs a starter, etc.
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:30 PM   #36
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I'm right down the middle on this one. If I mix up a batch of star san when brewing, I will save it for the bottles/keg a couple of weeks later. Then most of it ends up in the carboy washer. I do however like to keep a spray bottle filled with it. Now like a lot of you out there I have the strange urge to spend a fourtune on some stuff and as cheap as possible on something that goes along with it. Like my mom driving 20 miles to use a 20 cent coupon. Getting to the point, It would make sense to use distilled water for mixing up the batch that goes in the spray bottle that sits around for who knows how long. I have DI resin tanks at work. The water would not be steril, the star san would take care of that, but there would be no minerals in it at all.

Any thoughts on making a 1 gallon batch of solution at a time using DI water for use in a spray bottle? I would think it would last like the distilled water would.

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Old 11-02-2012, 02:35 PM   #37
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While I toss the solution that I use for santizing big stuff (buckets,carboys etc), I keep starsan solution in a spray bottle for months. Seems to be working fine.

P.S. - I've heard somewhere that in an open bucket it will keep for many hours, but in a closed bucket (or in my case spray bottle) it will keep for months.

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Old 11-02-2012, 02:42 PM   #38
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I keep mine in 1 gallon Sunny D jugs. Works good for months. If it lasts that long...
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:14 PM   #39
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I'm gonna go ahead and trust my experience (both as a brewer and scientist) with keeping it around, and the peer reviewed literature looking at the bactericidal effects of solutions with a pH below 3.0, that cloudiness from an anionic surfactant is not going to hurt its effectiveness to kill bacteria as long as the pH remains below 3.0.

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Old 11-02-2012, 03:17 PM   #40
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That's the truth of it. Keep PH below 3 & it seems to work just fine. I'm going to use my funnel & coffee filters again today to filter minor stuff out of my starsan solution before using it to bottle today. Darn dog & cat. Now if the darn kitchen sink was empty...
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