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Old 06-11-2008, 02:44 AM   #1
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Default "Let beer 'clean up after itself' in primary"...what does that mean??

Does anyone dare to throw some science on the idea of letting the beer "clean up after itself" for a while in the primary rather than racking it as soon as it hits the FG? I keep hearing this term but are people just throwing it around or is there some good evidence that it is the way to go? For example, I know plenty of people who think that you shouldn't ever clean your coffee pot using roughly the same logic...Just curious!


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It basically means the yeast broke down some of the larger molecule sugars into smaller sugars, and now it's going to go back and eat the smaller sugars (and other by-products) now. It improves the flavor of the beer. Hope that helps.
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From John Palmer's book "how to brew":

The fermentation of malt sugars into beer is a complicated biochemical process. It is more than just the conversion of sugar to alcohol, which can be regarded as the primary activity. Total fermentation is better defined as three phases, the Adaptation or Lagtime phase, the Primary or Attenuative phase and a Secondary or Conditioning phase. The yeast do not end Phase 2 before beginning Phase 3, the processes occur in parallel, but the conditioning processes occur more slowly. As the majority of simple sugars are consumed, more and more of the yeast will transition to eating the larger, more complex sugars and early yeast by-products. This is why beer (and wine) improves with age to a degree, as long as they are on the yeast. Beer that has been filtered or pasteurized will not benefit from aging.

Great reading on the phases of fermentation here: http://www.howtobrew.com/section1/chapter8-2-2.html

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The conditioning process is a function of the yeast. The vigorous, primary stage is over, the majority of the wort sugars have been converted to alcohol, and a lot of the yeast are going dormant; but there is still yeast activity. During the earlier phases, many different compounds were produced by the yeast in addition to ethanol and CO2, e.g., acetaldehyde, esters, amino acids, ketones- diacetyl, pentanedione, dimethyl sulfide, etc. Once the easy food is gone, the yeast start re-processing these by-products. Diacetyl and pentanedione are two ketones that have buttery and honey-like flavors. These compounds are considered flaws when present in large amounts and can cause flavor stability problems during storage. Acetaldehyde is an aldehyde that has a pronounced green apple smell and taste. It is an intermediate compound in the production of ethanol. The yeast reduce these compounds during the later stages of fermentation.

The yeast also produce an array of fusel alcohols during primary fermentation in addition to ethanol. Fusels are higher molecular weight alcohols that often give harsh solvent-like tastes to beer. During secondary fermentation, the yeast convert these alcohols to more pleasant tasting fruity esters. Warmer temperatures encourage ester production.
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After the yeast are done eating, they will be full and happy. Gravity will pull them out of suspension, and whatever other stuff is floating around. If you let it rest in primary, you'll have a clearer beer in the end.
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I get a lot less sediment in the bottles if I let the beer finish for 3 or more weeks. I never secondary any more after reading lots of posts here on HBT. I try to keep three fermentors full at all times, and bottle when I have a batch worth of empty bottles, which for me is about 10 days. I use irish moss now, which I didn't use when I started brewing. I don't know the science, but for me, longer is clearer and only cost me an extra bucket. "Got to keep the pipe line flowing!"
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Does anyone dare to throw some science on the idea of letting the beer "clean up after itself" for a while in the primary rather than racking it as soon as it hits the FG? I keep hearing this term but are people just throwing it around or is there some good evidence that it is the way to go? For example, I know plenty of people who think that you shouldn't ever clean your coffee pot using roughly the same logic...Just curious!
Great question, thanks for asking. This is something I also saw referred to but never explained and meant to research more or ask. Thalon's and especially Yooper's responses are a big help in understanding what this is all about.
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Great question, thanks for asking. Thalon's and especially Yooper's responses are a big help in understanding what this is all about.
+1 on that - thanks y'all
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+1 , yes ... good question about this terminology


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