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jetmac 10-16-2010 11:40 PM

I'm going to skip starting with extract and start with all-grain
 
Anything I should pay particular attention to?

I think I can do it. I have a few friends who have been all-grain brewing for a while.

ReverseApacheMaster 10-16-2010 11:48 PM

Temperature control is critical from the start of the mash all the way to bottle conditioning.

Temperature control is arguably the one thing more important than sanitation, but sanitation is definitely another really important concern.

jigidyjim 10-16-2010 11:54 PM

You can definitely do it. There's just more to pay attention to. And the other thing is that your beer won't turn out exactly as you plan, since you don't know what your brewhouse efficiency is yet. But it'll probably still turn out great. Just be patient and follow some well-written instructions that you can find here (or that your friends are helping you with).

buzzkill 10-16-2010 11:58 PM

wish I would have had some all grain friends when I started, I could have saved some money on alot of gear that I outgrew within the first year.

TacoGuthrie 10-17-2010 12:05 AM

I did 3 extract batches before making the jump. Looking back I wish i went straight to AG. I would've screwed a batch or two and I would've read up on everything a lot more than i did but i still say 'go for it'.

I agree with the temp control comment.

sudbuster 10-17-2010 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jetmac (Post 2342171)
Anything I should pay particular attention to?

I think I can do it. I have a few friends who have been all-grain brewing for a while.

I think you have made a very wise choice. AG is not the mysterious realm of beer gurus that many would like some to think. Having the equiptment is all it takes. If you can follow a cookie recipe, you can brew AG...:)

Carter5112 10-17-2010 12:11 AM

I like it! I went AG after 2 brews. I just couldn't help myself. Biggest problem you'll run into I think is troubleshooting flaws in the final product. Starting off with extract would allow you to focus on the boil and fermentation more. I don't blame you though. I didn't really feel like I made beer till I started from the grain. Read the stickies here on All Grain and Palmer's book if you haven't and you'll be set. The one thing it's taken me several batches to pinpoint is increased dough-in water temp to account for grain and tun temps as well as lauter water temp to increase grain bed temp to desired.

jetmac 10-17-2010 12:38 AM

Thanks for the replies. I have read John Palmers book. I agree keeping things sanatised is important and I am working on getting a free fridge for temp control during fermentation. I have a Ranco temp controller I used for my salt water aquarium. AND...I plan to keg to keep things simple. I hate washing dishes and washing and sanitising dozens of bottles plus trying to get carbonation correct is more work.

baystatebrew 10-17-2010 12:50 AM

i disagree. yes, you need more equipment. but that is not "all" you need. experience and understanding the basics can't be replaced just by spending more on equipment or knowing other people that brew beer. their experience isn't yours and there is no replacement for personal experience. there is a difference between following a step by step brew process and actually understanding the intricacies of certain steps that you only learn through experience. starting simple makes it a hell of a lot easier to add a few additional advanced steps into the basic process.

sudbuster 10-17-2010 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by baystatebrew (Post 2342282)
i disagree. yes, you need more equipment. but that is not "all" you need. experience and understanding the basics can't be replaced just by spending more on equipment or knowing other people that brew beer. their experience isn't yours and there is no replacement for personal experience. there is a difference between following a step by step brew process and actually understanding the intricacies of certain steps that you only learn through experience. starting simple makes it a hell of a lot easier to add a few additional advanced steps into the basic process.

With all due respect sir, I think every thing you have said is bulls^it. Any average IQ 7th grader with the proper equiptment could easily brew an AG beer.


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