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Old 11-15-2013, 03:57 PM   #21
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oh yeah! I totally forgot about heat sterilization... Some folks use their dishwasher. Slide the bottles over the little tines and run the drying cycle. Then they bottle right from the dishwasher...

There's a thread here some where about that.

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Here's Revvy's bottling thread... 2nd post shows bottling on open dishwasher door after sanitizing bottles with dry setting:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f35/bott...ebrewer-94812/

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Old 11-16-2013, 04:34 PM   #22
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Everybody has their own method for processing bottles. Here's mine;
1. When the bottle is emptied, I rinse it out twice, or more if required til rinse water runs clear.
2. Look into the bottle in front of a strong light and verify there's nothing stuck inside.
3. Place the clean, wet bottle upside down in the dishwasher 24 hrs, until dry.
4. Store dry bottles on an empty case, closed to prevent accumulation of dust.

THE DAY BEFORE BOTTLING

1. place the bottles upside down in a dishwasher. Run through a full cycle including sanitize.

THE DAY OF BOTTLING
1. squirt with sanitizer from a Vintator
2. Fill
3. condition
4. Drink
5. Go to step 1

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Old 11-16-2013, 09:29 PM   #23
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You have to be careful with the dishwasher method though, some of them don't get hot enough to sanitize. I used mine on my first batch and I suspect that one of my bottles had an infection, it didn't taste bad it just had something weird floating on top of the beer.
I love the oven method because it requires no sanitizer, bottle tree, or vinator, and I can do it a month ahead of time if I want.
It's a very flexible process.

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It seems like it would be annoying and fiddly to cut out all the little foil squares for a bunch of bottles when using the oven method.

How would you compare it to dealing with a sanitizer solution?

I typically mix up a 5gal batch of sanitizer and submerge 12+ bottles at a time in the bucket. I pull a bottle, dump the sanitizer and fill for the bottling bucket. While the 1st bottling is filling I grab and dump the next bottle with my other hand.

Once my little assembly line uses all the soaking bottles, I load up the sanitizer bucket with bottles again, cap the already filled bottles, then start over.

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Cutting all the foil squares isn't so bad, it's a lot easier with scissors instead of the cutter attached to the box.

It cuts a lot of time off of bottling day since all I have to do is remove the foil and fill the bottle.
The way you explained it you have to stop after 12 bottles and add more bottles to the sanitizer, plus I'm sure you're dripping that sanitizer all over the place.

The way I do it I have all my bottles ready to go, they're dry, I fill all of them and set a sanitized cap on top of each one until they're all filled, then I press all the caps on all at once.
There's very little clean up aside from a little foil.

The first time I bottled I used sanitizer and the dishwasher as a bottle tree, it wasn't so bad, but once I tried the oven method I was hooked.

But if your method works good for you, don't stop.

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Oh, yeah... I drip all over I do 6 gal batches so that's a lot of bottles. Seems like I only have room for 12 or 16 bottles before I have to cap and move 'em out of the way of my bottling bucket anyway. So it doesn't seem too bad when I'm in the process. Although I have to admit, it's very helpful when one of my kids reloads the sanitizer bucket with more bottle

I'm always looking for ways to save time so I like to hear compare and contrast from folks who have done it several ways.

Sorry for the threadjack

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I started using autonomist3k's oven-autoclave method a few batches back when I first read this, and I'm a believer. Although I only give them 20-30min at 300 degF. Nothing on earth can live past about two or three minutes on glass at that temp anyway, even 250 would be safe technically. I don't bother with scissors on the foil, just tear off little chunks as you go, it's faster than you think and it all gets baked anyway.

Why sanitize when you can sterilize?

And fortunately my entire batch of foiled bottles fits in the oven at once. So it's a bottling-morning process, then I take them out and let them cool before filling. This method can't bring the entire process up to sterility though, there's still a weak link because the bottle caps still need to sit in star-san or their plastic seals will melt. Overall though, this method instills a lot of confidence versus what can be a nagging worry.

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