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Camride · 03-23-2012, 07:06 PM

So I thought that the little bottle of powder that came with my Midwest Groupon kit (basic kit) was sanitizer, but I never actually read the bottle. I looked at it last night and it states it's a cleaner (stated on their website as: 4 Oz. of Easy Clean No-Rinse Cleanser), not a sanitizer.

I've made three brews though with no infection though. :banana:

Just thought I'd point out that improper sanitation doesn't always equal instant infection.

And yes, I already picked up some star-san today.

Dougan · 03-23-2012, 07:12 PM

I've heard this cleaner has "unofficial" sanitizing properties. I wouldn't recommend using it as your only sanitizer, but it could explain why it allowed everything to work for you.

beerkrump · 03-23-2012, 07:19 PM

That cleaner is a lot like OxyClean. It has a solid that dissolves into dilute hydrogen peroxide. In high enough concentrations, H2O2 is a sanitizer. However, at the concentrations used, it can be a disinfectant. All that means is that the kill rate of microorganisms is smaller. Thirty years ago, that cleaner was the standard sanitizer for home brewing.

Don't panic, I have a feeling you'll end up with beer.

**Redcat** · 03-23-2012, 07:19 PM

Oxiclean & One Step are sanitizers, just not FDA approved. They both generate hydrogen peroxide as part of the process, which cleans and sanitizes surfaces.

With that said, I still use Star-san after I use Oxiclean or One Step when brewing/bottling/etc.

Camride · 03-23-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by beerkrump

That cleaner is a lot like OxyClean. It has a solid that dissolves into dilute hydrogen peroxide. In high enough concentrations, H2O2 is a sanitizer. However, at the concentrations used, it can be a disinfectant. All that means is that the kill rate of microorganisms is smaller. Thirty years ago, that cleaner was the standard sanitizer for home brewing.

Don't panic, I have a feeling you'll end up with beer.

Oh I did, I've already knocked back my first brew and my second is bottle conditioning now. I'm not worried at all, I'm mostly just pointing out that forgetting or not using Star-San or some other equal sanitizer doesn't equal instant beer death.

I have a tub of OxyClean so I'll be using that and Star-San from here on out.

wafflesbr0wn · 03-23-2012, 08:01 PM

That takes a lot of my mine first brew. I did the same thing four days ago. My first brew too.. Panic. I'm glad that someone else has done that LoL!! I still smell alcohol coming out of the airlock. That is a good thing right? Getting ready to probably move to secondary tomorrow. Airlock hasn't bubbled in a day and a half.. So, I figured I could rack it to the secondary tomorrow. Or should I wait till Monday?

dbhokie · 03-23-2012, 08:12 PM

I used Easy Clean for my first four batches, delicious.

Kind of like food (one of my other hobbies is hot sauce), just because the FDA doesn't approve it, doesn't mean it isn't effective to the task, it can be backwards beaurocratical nonsense.

That being said in the interests of caring too much I use Star San. My LHBS told me easyclean would work perfectly fine used in the right concentrations, but better to err on the side of caution I suppose.

wafflesbr0wn · 03-23-2012, 08:15 PM

LoL!! Stupid question here. How do u edit ur profile? IE: pictures, quotes. Ect.

Camride · 03-23-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wafflesbr0wn

LoL!! Stupid question here. How do u edit ur profile? IE: pictures, quotes. Ect.

User CP (Control Panel) towards the top left of the site.

How long has your beer been in primary? You should leave it in primary for at least 2 weeks before moving it to secondary.

hwilshusen · 03-23-2012, 09:00 PM

I did the same thing with my first 2 non Mr Beer batches. Every thing turned out ok. All new equipment might have helped. Now I'm using Starsan.