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**sunadmn** · 12-29-2012, 09:56 PM

Evening all I am making a small batch (1 gallon) all grain of a tripel recipe I found from the Brooklyn Brew Shop and trying to determine the amount of yeast to pitch. I am using a Whitelabs Abbey Ale WLP530 yeast. I have gone out to the Mr. Malty web site to try to figure this out on my own, but since I have no OG to go from I am a bit at a loss. Also for this small a batch should I even bother with a starter and if so once I determine the amount of yeast how much DME should I use?

Thanks all,
-Stephen

DocScott · 12-29-2012, 10:23 PM

We can't really help you unless we know OG and yeast viability (same as mr malty). What's your recipe? We can come up w a rough OG based on your ingredients and batch size and go from there.

**bottlebomber** · 12-29-2012, 10:28 PM

I wouldn't usually recommend doing this, but if it's a good fresh vial of yeast being just the gallon you could just pitch the vial. A gallon of beer is almost a starter in it of itself. Make a high gravity 5 gallon batch to pitch on the cake!

**hoppyhoppyhippo** · 12-29-2012, 10:30 PM

I looked at their instructions for "A Well Made Tripel" , they call for tossing half a packet of yeast into it. So my guess is that you don't need a starter, I would venture the unscientific method of pouring most of the yeast in but I assume that's not acceptable.

Did you buy their kit or find a recipe and have the grain bill? If you know what's in it and how it was mashed you can probably throw it into a recipe builder to estimate OG.

**sunadmn** · 12-29-2012, 11:11 PM

Here is the ingredient list:

2.8 pounds Belgian pilsner malt
0.08 pounds Carmel 10 malt
0.3 ounce east kent Golding hops
0.1 ounce Saaz hops
0.25 pound clear Belgian candy sugar

Thanks all!

McGarnigle · 12-30-2012, 12:34 AM

Just pitch the whole vial.

You can go to an online website to figure the OG. E.g.,

http://www.brewersfriend.com/allgrain-ogfg/

BTW: this is the downside of brewing a one gallon batch. $7 worth of yeast for 10-11 bottles. Maybe you should brew a series of Belgians all with the same yeast (harvest it).

**hoppyhoppyhippo** · 12-30-2012, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunadmn

Here is the ingredient list:

2.8 pounds Belgian pilsner malt
0.08 pounds Carmel 10 malt
0.3 ounce east kent Golding hops
0.1 ounce Saaz hops
0.25 pound clear Belgian candy sugar

Thanks all!

I got an OG around 1.088 obviously it's probably not perfect

But I just check Mr. Malty and they have it as like 0.6 Vials so you'd probably just want to guess how much that is

**hoppyhoppyhippo** · 12-30-2012, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by McGarnigle

Just pitch the whole vial.

You can go to an online website to figure the OG. E.g.,

http://www.brewersfriend.com/allgrain-ogfg/

BTW: this is the downside of brewing a one gallon batch. $7 worth of yeast for 10-11 bottles. Maybe you should brew a series of Belgians all with the same yeast (harvest it).

Yeah it is a downside. What I want to do is have like 3 similar or maybe the same beers, and just make a mess of starters that I'd need. Probably make a 2 litre batch and pitch that between all 3 batches.

**sunadmn** · 12-30-2012, 12:43 PM

I was thinking about harvesting the yeast and using it again on a larger batch of this brew if it turns out well, this is going to be my first all grain brew so figured start small in case I mess things up.

Since we are talking about harvesting do you guys have any good recommendations for a decent how-to?

larrybrewer · 12-31-2012, 01:02 AM

You might check out our detailed yeast pitch and starter calculator.
http://www.brewersfriend.com/yeast-pitch-rate-and-starter-calculator/

Liquid yeast goes bad pretty fast. The calculator will provide details like how much yeast is probably left in the vial, and how much yeast you need to hit a certain pitch rate. At an OG of 1.088, you might go with a higher pitch rate (1.5 or 2.0).