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Old 01-02-2009, 04:02 PM   #21
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:02 PM   #22
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Revvy, settle down man. No one claimed AG was a holy grail in here. I completely understand your point but maybe wait until someone makes a claim that extract brewing is for losers...
Actually some people on here (mostly new converts, and quite a few EAC's ) have said stuff to that effect...I can find you the threads, there's plenty of those on here, especially with titles like "Extract Vs Allgrain" or Extract Sucks...There are a few threads that even say that extract brewers aren't real brewers....

They're not hard to find...

Funny how touchy SOME people have gotten about the comment. I didn't name names....or allude to anyone in particular on here...and I'm not saying anyone on this thread is that way...

Though "Methinks some people doth protest too much"...

I just expressed my opinion just like everyone else did...I just suggested he work on his process and be the best brewer he could be...regardless of the method he chooses...



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Old 01-02-2009, 04:18 PM   #24
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I did extract for about a year. Nothing at all wrong with extracts, but AG is cheaper and IMHO, more fun. It requires some more equipment, and more time. I could do extract after work if I wanted...with AG, I need to block out a good chunk of a weekend day. But it makes the brew day more of an event. If you can do extract-you've got the main stuff down. Vorlauf, sacrafication, decoction, etc. are scary sounding words, but the actual process is pretty simple...and it doesn't require the same level of sanitation that you need for post-boil operations.

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Old 01-02-2009, 04:21 PM   #25
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To be honest my biggest problem with extract is the color shift, and yes I know how to minimize it but there is no way around the fact that an extract and steep is going to be a few shades darker than an AG version of the same beer.

On New Year's Eve, I had someone say "I am not a big fan of dark beers like that in general, but that one is really good." A nice compliment usually but it was a pale ale with only Extra light LME and DME and 1 lb of 15L crystal.

I didn't say it but I chuckled when I thought "pay no attention to your eyes, this is a light beer."

As far as extract twang, I trust my supplier (Morebeer) to provide extract that is fresh enough to avoid this.

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EDIT EDIT... you guys crack me up. No one in this thread has mentioned any brewing technique being superior, and yet the thread turns to elitists and holy grails. Why did you have to bring Monty Python into it?

My buddy did some extract brewing, his porter was very nice. Honestly that is the only extract brew I have ever tasted, so Id say that extract is fine. The only "not so good" properties of extract brews that I know of... you guessed it, were posted by extract brewers on here.

My wife thinks baking a cake consists of opening a box and adding water, oil and eggs. I think it starts with flour...

To each thier own...

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extract brewing is for losers
...then I must be an award winning loser...

I won Best of Show and Best of Style on my first time out with an extract HW, beating out over 100 other brews.

All I can say is many/most of my brews taste better (to me) than some of the pubs I've been to.

I went to one the other night and couldn't finish 1/2 pint of the crap they were selling...stay away from the Bent River in Moline, IL.
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:32 PM   #28
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EDIT EDIT... you guys crack me up. No one in this thread has mentioned any brewing technique being superior, and yet the thread turns to elitists and holy grails. Why did you have to bring Monty Python into it?

My buddy did some extract brewing, his porter was very nice. Honestly that is the only extract brew I have ever tasted, so Id say that extract is fine. The only "not so good" properties of extract brews that I know of... you guessed it, were posted by extract brewers on here.

My wife thinks baking a cake consists of opening a box and adding water, oil and eggs. I think it starts with flour...

To each thier own...
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It took me 8 months to start brewing using all grains. Notice I said start not switched to. I still brew really good beer with extracts as well. It's kind of like sex - sometimes you have the time to plan it out, take it slow and try new things. Other times you just want to get down and do what you know works. Either way, it's enjoyable.

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Whether extract or all grain.... the end result is beer.....

doesn't really matter how you get there.

at least IMHO



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