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Old 01-19-2012, 02:36 AM   #1
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This is only my third HB, so please help me out with this one guys... Here's what I narrowed it down to...

"Hoppy" Belgian Golden Ale EXTRACT RECIPE:
10 lbs Pilsen Light DME, or North Western Gold Extract
6 lb Pale Liquid Extract (not too sure about this one)
3/4 cup Belgian special roast malt
3/4 cup English crystal malt (80L)
??? Caravienne Malt
??? Caramunich Malt
??? Belgian Candi Sugar (clear)
1/4 lb Brown Sugar
0.75 oz "Northern Brewer [9.80 %] (60 min)
1.41 oz Saaz [4.00 %] (30 min)
1.23 oz Saaz [4.00 %] (15 min)
0.71 oz Saaz [4.00 %] (DRY HOP)
1 Pkgs Belgian Golden Ale - WLP570

I know I'm all over the place with this one, but all I want is that beautiful Belgian Ale taste with a nice hoppy kick.

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Old 01-19-2012, 02:53 AM   #2
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I don't think you want the special roast and dark crystal in there for a golden ale, have you plugged this into a brewing calculator or program? Is that 3/4 lb by the way - you said cup.

Edit: what size batch is this? 16 lbs of extract is a lot.

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Old 01-19-2012, 03:20 AM   #3
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how big a batch is this - 5 gal? that is a lot of DME + LME for 5. you're lining yourself up for an OG of over 1.130, according to my estimate (aka Beer Calculus . homebrew recipe calculator - and i didn't even input the Caravienne nor the Caramunich!). at 10 gallons, you're in the 1.065 - 1.070 range.

you'll need a good amount of yeast to ferment all that sugar. not sure one yeast pack will cover it, unless you make a starter + step it up (check out Mrmalty.com for some scary numbers).

this opinion/advice is based mostly on what i've read, so hopefully someone with more real-world experience can step in and share their insights.

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You look on target sweetcell. In beersmith for a 5 gal batch (without the ?? ingredients) I get:
1.134 OG
34 IBU
color 24.7 SRM (brown)

OP, if this is 5 gal batch I think you're on your way to brewing a quad that needs about a 4.5 L starter.

What would you think about dropping the LME, dark grains, and brown sugar, and do something like:
9 lb Pilsen DME
1 lb candi or corn sugar
1 lb caravienne

Sounds like you want the hop character to come through but I wouldn't go too high on the IBU's.
EDIT - correction, calculated wrong when I posted. You could still do:

0.75 northern brewer 60 min
1 oz saaz each at 15 min, 5 min, and dry hop

that at least gets you more in style for a golden strong with
1.087 OG
(correction) IBU 32
color 6.3

Per MrMalty about a 1.8 L starter for that.

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Old 01-20-2012, 02:51 PM   #5
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Thanks a lot guys!

Chickypad, I'm going with your advice. I'm steeping the candi and caravienne before the boil correct? And you prefer Pilsen Light over North Western Gold???

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You steep the caravienne, add the candi either toward the end of the boil or to the fermenter a few days into fermentation (boil in a small amount of water then cool and add).

I just am not familiar with NW Gold. I assume that is a pale extract, so it would be little darker than the pilsen. Many belgian triples and golden strong ales use pilsner as their base but I don't see why you couldn't try either.
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