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Old 01-22-2009, 07:24 PM   #1
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hey everyone

just read in another post that hop pellets usually settle in trub and don't contaminate wort. so on to my question,

getting ready to brew another batch and have misplaced/lost my strainer. is it ok to dump all the wort (including hop pellets) into fermenter?



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Old 01-22-2009, 07:29 PM   #2
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Dumping everything into the primary shouldn't be a problem but isn't really ideal. My brother dumps everything in and makes fine beer.

I usually whirlpool the cooled bitter wort in the brew kettle then rack (siphon) it into the primary to leave behind most of the hops, trub, cold break, etc.



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Old 01-22-2009, 07:45 PM   #3
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I always leave it all in, even whole grains i put them in a blender give them a couple of short swirls and drop them in the wort, then after boiling and cooling i pour everything in the primary without any filtering stage, then i siphon it all into glass carboy secondary after a week or two depending on the yeast, everything eventually clears out with time in the fermenters.

I want to get the best i can get as far as flavor is concerned.
But thats just me...

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Old 01-22-2009, 08:05 PM   #4
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I have never heard of leaving the 'spent' grains in the primary. I don't think I would end up with much beer if I put my 4-8 lbs. (partial mash) of grain in the primary with everything else. I would be afraid of the reduced space for krausen.

Do grains add much in the way of flavor after they have been mashed for 30 - 60 minutes, and the primary is between 65 and 75 *F?

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Old 01-22-2009, 08:14 PM   #5
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Yeah, grains in the primary sounds pretty shady. If you boil them you'll extract tannins that impart an astringent taste. If you do not boil them there's a definite infection risk as they were never sanitized.

Either way I doubt they are adding much flavor in the primary.

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Old 01-22-2009, 08:52 PM   #6
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I must precise i never really follow recipes...
I just take a handful of chocolate, or Dark crystal or whatever i can get my hands on malt grains, put them in the blender (shortly) then in the wort which will boil of course.

The rest of my malt comes from syrup extracts.

The grain is used to add flavor to the whole thing.

Then the hops pellets are thrown in the soup as well, then out to the primary after cooling the stainless steel has been cooled in the kitchen sink.

Then after a week or so, i transfer to secondary (glass carboy) for usually two weeks and by the time i'm ready to bottle, all the junk from the grain shells and such has piled on the bottom of the carboy.

Gives me pretty decent results so far.

But... I also tried this method, i take a second stainless pot, put the grains in the blender again, then into a stainless strainer into the pot with water up to strainer level... then boil it (near boil actually) down for about 20 minutes... remove the strainer and throw the grains in the garbage and pour the resulting juice in the wort.

of course this gives a more "clear" profile which takes less time to clear out.

both methods work fine, but putting them all in the wort without the strainer method takes more time to clear but with added flavour.

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Old 01-22-2009, 10:09 PM   #7
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boiling grains isn't advised. You leach tannins. You might wanna try simmering them at 150-160 for 30 minutes then straining the liquid into your brew pot, and possibly "sparging" the grains with some hot water to get more out. Give it a try and see how a beer turns out with that method, if u want that is
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boiling grains isn't advised. You leach tannins. You might wanna try simmering them at 150-160 for 30 minutes then straining the liquid into your brew pot, and possibly "sparging" the grains with some hot water to get more out. Give it a try and see how a beer turns out with that method, if u want that is
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Well sorry but this is what i meant, i don't really boil them, just was lacking the proper term to describe what i actually do.

Then i refill the pot and give them a second "simmering" run.

But i have also tried the grains right in the wort, just took a little more time to clear out, but i didnt see much of a difference as far as taste was concerned, just a little more strong tasting in the end i'd say.

But hey... im no pro... just trying many different things here.
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You should NEVER boil grain.

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You should NEVER boil grain.
Why?
I don't mean to argue or anything here, but i don't see why it could hurt the flavor that much?

After all, isn't Home brew also a fine place for experimenting?

So far i have yet to taste one of my home brew batch that i didn't enjoy to the last drop so i must be doing something right.


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