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Old 03-19-2010, 08:15 PM   #1
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This might be a common question, but can homebrew stouts be served with normal CO2 or is a nitrogen mix a necessity? A creamer tap is easy enough to snag, but a whole new gas tank, lines etc. is a considerably larger investment...

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I just served mine in my regular kegerator, with my other beers. It was great!

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Excellent. I'm starting my third batch this weekend and figured I'd give a stout a try.

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Excellent. I'm starting my third batch this weekend and figured I'd give a stout a try.

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I used the "oatmeal stout" from Jamil Zainasheff's book "Brewing Classic Styles". It came out perfectly, and I highly recommend that recipe.
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I'm looking at a vanilla stout someone posted in the recipes forum. I suspect the local homebrew store owner will probably adapt it somewhat to keep the cost down, but he's really good about letting me bring in a random printout then putting it all together.

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There's zero reason you can't. I serve stouts on CO2 all of the time.

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Old 03-25-2010, 08:11 PM   #7
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I bought my kegerator for the expressed purpose of drinking stout as I do not particularly care for many ales or pilsners. I run Murphy's Irish Stout exclusively in my kegerator, and although running it through a 'normal' faucet and pushing with CO2 (at your normal 8-12lbs) is possible, nothing compares to actually converting your draught system into a 'stout' system. After running a 50L keg through with the CO2 and 'normal' faucet, I made the upgrade to the 'stout' faucet and mixed blend gas and ran another barrel through. The difference is well worth the cost if you are as anal with your beer as I am with mine.

The cost is rather high, I had to buy the special faucet for ~$90 (it is brass - you may find a cheaper one), and I depressurized the CO2 and replaced with a mixed blend of 75%Nitrogen/25%CO2. The difference is remarkable, and gives you that perfect, rich, cascading head that everyone raves about. Also, depending on your line length and line diameter, you need to determine at what pressure to set the regulator at, as stout needs to be HIGH to force it through the special faucet - it has TINY holes and a plastic 'spinner' which is what agitates the liquid as it is being poured (my calculations came to 32lbs, and it pours perfectly). There is an easy way to determine this pressure using a formula - I can't find it right this second - but there are multiple resources online for it.

I was able to convince my local gas supply store to charge my 5lb tank with the blend, but you may not be so lucky. Officially, you need a stronger tank to hold Nitrogen, and most companies wouldn't consider putting Nitrogen in a CO2 rated tank.

So I got away cheap with $90 for the upgrade, but officially you will also need a different tank for mixed blend gas containing mostly Nitrogen as well as the adapter from that special tank to your regulator.

I just finished purchasing all the equipment I need for my first AG batch of stout and plan on brewing tomorrow morning. I will be sure to post some pics of the process and let you all know how it turns out!

Wish me luck!

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best of luck, I was fortunate enough to pick up a massive Nitrogen tank when I bought mine off of craigslist (kegerator, half keg, 2 taps, all supplies, 5 lb CO2, and massive nitrgoen tank for $150)!!

my question is this. since the nitrogen is a blend, does that mean you can carbonate a stout off of the blend...or is it better to use the CO2, and then switch to the nitrogen blend once it's fully carbonated?

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i prefer my stouts to be non-nitrogen.

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i prefer my stouts to be non-nitrogen.
I have never tried this, but I do have this massive nitrogen tank just sitting there...I guess I could always (when I get the next kegerator), buy a commerical stout and run it through this...but I would rather enjoy my home stout the way it is meant...ramble done for now
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