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02-03-2011, 05:18 PM
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High abv RIS-WLP099 or WLP002?
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I plan on brewing a really strong RIS in the next few weeks and was wondering if I should ferment it with a starter of White Labs Super High Gravity yeast or a big starter of WLP002?
I read that WLP099 can produce fruity esters which I am hoping to avoid, but I was not sure if I just fermented the stout at a lower temp if that could be avoided. I was also not sure if the WLP would crap out before my FG was reached.
Thanks for your help 
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02-03-2011, 05:21 PM
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what is your targeting starting gravity?
Without knowing a lot I would suggest WLP007 actually, it will have the attenuation you need for a high gravity brew and still be a English yeast, also handles high alchohol well.
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On tap: Batch 1 Flanders Red, experimental sour 1.072 > 1.000, #70 Simple, gone complex pale 1.063 4/5/13, #71 French IPA, American IPA with spanish cedar and fermented with 3711 1.059>1.008
Fermenting: #72 Flower power saison 1.053>1.004 with lavender and jasmine
Aging: #67 Bareleywine 1.116 11/07/2012, Flanders 2 batches 1.056 and 1.060 12/12/11 and 3/26/12, Smoked Porter 1.063 10/11, pepper RIS 1.088 7/11, Kriek, 1.052 12/11, RYE IPA sour experiment 8/12, Berliner Weisse 1.030 9/20/12
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02-03-2011, 05:23 PM
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I think a big healthy, active pitch of 007 would be the way to go.
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02-03-2011, 05:53 PM
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yes a big healthy starter, I guess I assumed that would be done 
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On tap: Batch 1 Flanders Red, experimental sour 1.072 > 1.000, #70 Simple, gone complex pale 1.063 4/5/13, #71 French IPA, American IPA with spanish cedar and fermented with 3711 1.059>1.008
Fermenting: #72 Flower power saison 1.053>1.004 with lavender and jasmine
Aging: #67 Bareleywine 1.116 11/07/2012, Flanders 2 batches 1.056 and 1.060 12/12/11 and 3/26/12, Smoked Porter 1.063 10/11, pepper RIS 1.088 7/11, Kriek, 1.052 12/11, RYE IPA sour experiment 8/12, Berliner Weisse 1.030 9/20/12
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02-03-2011, 05:55 PM
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If you're a new brewer and you don't have the capability to make a BIG starter (probably need 2000ml or more), you could try pitching 2 packets of Safale S-04 instead of WLP002. Oh wait want to avoid fruity esters? Then use US-05 instead.
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02-03-2011, 05:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by humann_brewing
what is your targeting starting gravity?
Without knowing a lot I would suggest WLP007 actually, it will have the attenuation you need for a high gravity brew and still be a English yeast, also handles high alchohol well.
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I dont have the recipe with me so I am not sure the exact og.
I had not considered WLP007 but that is good to know. Thanks!
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02-03-2011, 06:01 PM
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I'm no atheist scientist, but...
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i just brewed a 10% RIS with US-05. just two rehydrated packs, got to terminal within the week i believe.
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02-03-2011, 06:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbreeze
I dont have the recipe with me so I am not sure the exact og.
I had not considered WLP007 but that is good to know. Thanks!
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P.S. I have brewed a 12.6% imperial porter with WLP007
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On tap: Batch 1 Flanders Red, experimental sour 1.072 > 1.000, #70 Simple, gone complex pale 1.063 4/5/13, #71 French IPA, American IPA with spanish cedar and fermented with 3711 1.059>1.008
Fermenting: #72 Flower power saison 1.053>1.004 with lavender and jasmine
Aging: #67 Bareleywine 1.116 11/07/2012, Flanders 2 batches 1.056 and 1.060 12/12/11 and 3/26/12, Smoked Porter 1.063 10/11, pepper RIS 1.088 7/11, Kriek, 1.052 12/11, RYE IPA sour experiment 8/12, Berliner Weisse 1.030 9/20/12
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